Is there another "top bracket" manager who has gone 7 seasons without a trophy?

[jelgoon]

Obviously he cares and Im sure he wants to win the major trophies. The stuff he churns out all the time about having succeeded in qualifying for the CL every season is just to cover his failure to win a trophy. What is he going to say `yeh I agree I am shit and cant win anything'. The real issue is the board and particularly Hill Wood. He endorses without any criticisim whatsoever what Wenger says and thats what is wrong. We desperately need someone on the executive to turn round in those pathetic stage-managed AGMs and say that it's not good enough coming fourth season after season. But no-one ever will.

If he diid not care he would not look defeated simple he just give 1 or 2 excues ans be done with it.

I not convinced he is happy with 4th just because he says it means nothing.

He has never said it when we were in comps only when e get knocked out of them or look like we may go out.

maybe he needs more motivation for winning but i still say his ambtion to win is there.

[Power n Glory]

It's all pride. He wants to show the world that he's right and everyone else is wrong. He looks hurt after each loss because his pride has been dented. What he's doing is a bit selfish. He gives young players a chance but it's a bit selfish to expect them to go without silverware so he can prove the world wrong and feed his ego. That is why I think RVP should go I Wenger isn't prepared to what's needed.