Is our most improved player from last season and over the course of this. . .would still love us to go for Vertonghen and give AW a headache about the quality he has to choose from rather than the dross he has when one of the first teamers go down!
Is our most improved player from last season and over the course of this. . .would still love us to go for Vertonghen and give AW a headache about the quality he has to choose from rather than the dross he has when one of the first teamers go down!
Yeah he's been very good but he's not our player of the season (perhaps most improved player of the season). He has been part of a defence that has conceded 47 goals, and while he can't be individually blamed for most of them, he's still got to take some collective responsibility.
Clearly RVP's been our player of the season. People do tend to go to extremes tbh, at the start of the season he's better than Messi, now because he had an indifferent April people are not even listing him as their best player of the season, maybe to try and prove we're not a one man team. While it's true we're not a one man team, without his goals and assists we'd be languishing in 10th most probably.
Kos, Kos, Kos is a super star,
He can kick the ball far,
He is a wicked play-ar,
He was signed by Weng-ar,
He is better than Cygan
And Chamakh is shit...
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i really dont buy this argument at all. without some of chesneys saves, we would be tenth because the goal would have cancelled out rvps. without song or theos assists, rvp wouldnt score. yes his goals have been vital, but they are hardly goals where he saves it on his own goal and runs the pitch and scores.
I see where youre coming from. . .there is no doubt that RvP has been phenomenal this season and his goals have been vital but I get you, this is a team game and even though almost every one of the players has been wanting at some point this year, but if we lose as a team then we must win as one too, right?
I mean for every goal he has scored, there has to be a pass, a possession winning tackle. . .ok sometimes a mistake by the opposition!
Sorry Ollie :goodposting:
Fixed it for you.
We win as a team, we loose as a team, we defend as a team, we attack as a team. its not just the defenders at fault for us conceeding. everyone in the team has to take responsibility for that even RVP.
Okay but when you look at the fact that he's been involved in 42 of our 71 goals (close to 60%) you realise that without him we really would be a shit position. None of our other strikers could have scored most of the goals because they require not just technique but intelligent movement, which neither Chamakh nor Park possess.
Yes RVP has been a major help to us winning the league but if you swapped him with Auguero, would he too not have scored these goals, or a Benzema or Higuain.
So like Ollie said you have to give the team credit to for creating these goals its noto as it RVP scored them out of thin Air.
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