Steve Bould is number 2!

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It's just one of those things at the club, it's not a reflection on Bould as such, just of how Wenger seems to have anyone around him enchanted by him and his ways, after 7 years of abject failure it's tiresome to hear people praising him all the time, I'm not sure 7 barren years deserves praise.Dein is gone and sadly isn't coming back, he was a big loss, he was the visionnary the guy who made us tick, without him were a puzzle with a missing piece, I just wish PHW had been kicked out instead, the club would be so much better off for it.

yes he derseves to be called on his failings and he does. Besides no one at the club has ever priased him for faliure or not winning a thing in 7 years so not sure why you go on like they have. They praise him for keeping us in the top 4 something diffrent.

but why do you expect those in the club to do it. no club would do that to one of its employees never ever, unless he was on the outs etc.

Arsenal have always shown support to their own before Wenger came and will after he goes.

[Özim]

yes he derseves to be called on his failings and he does. Besides no one at the club has ever priased him for faliure or not winning a thing in 7 years so not sure why you go on like they have. They praise him for keeping us in the top 4 something diffrent.

but why do you expect those in the club to do it. no club would do that to one of its employees never ever, unless he was on the outs etc.

Arsenal have always shown support to their own before Wenger came and will after he goes.

It's ridiculous to come out and praise a manager who's failed for 7 years IMO, they should say nothing...praise should be kept for times it's deserved and he doesn't deserve it.

Noone calls him up on his failings on even brings them up, it's always "Arsene he's so great", "He's doing a wonderful job", "he's the best in the business" etc does anyone know of anyone who has failed for so long who has received this much praise, cos I sure don't.

I'd love someone to finally confront him in an interview, ask him questions everyone really wants the answers and not the usual cr*p. Maybe they vet the interviews before hand to make sure he can't be asked certain things, it's the only explanation I can think of for noone asking him some of those questions which would put him out of his comfort zone. Indeed after the AGM where awkward questions were asked the club pretty much decided to gag all those who dared to question the policies, manager and club, it's like a friggin dictatorship!

[Cripps_orig]

Yep. but classic GW lets hammer Bould before he has even stepped into the job.

Hes been in the backroom staff for ages.

He wont be doing anything different

[Kano]

Not really, the guy has won jack sh*t in 7 years, it's hardly a glowing reference for his supposed skill and experience.

Well personally I'd replace the manager, it's not my job to find these guys but someone like Vieira would have been good IMO...someone's who's a winner and isn't happy to settle for 4th place.

Alternatively a number 2 with a proven track record of success at clubs. Another name is Adams, may have been a sh*t manager but number 2's aren't necessarily good at being managers, just look at McClaren and Queiroz as examples.

i agree about replacing the manager but that is not the debate here. do you think any idiot could roll up and maintain a clubs status near the top of the game, regardless of winning a trophy or not? from memory there have not been very many.

"a number 2 with a proven track record of success" and you suggest adams and vieira??

so let's imagine either of those are number 2 and voice an opinion different to wenger, who in turn says "no, we're doing it my way" - then what?

when you are interviewing and employing an assistant to work for and with you, do you look for someone that will compliment your work or someone to throw a spanner in the works?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Hes been in the backroom staff for ages.

He wont be doing anything different

Like i said Classic GW, not giving the guy a chance to prove his worth. And your wrong he has never beein involved in the 1st team so he will be doing a lot diffrent.

But lets be real had we got him from somewhere in europe people on here would still moan.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I don't see us winning anything with Wenger as Manager. We have a team incapable of challenging for the league title, yet he does not care about the domestic cups, so that in itself does not bode well for us winning anything soon.

But, we are talking about an Assistant Manager here - who has recent experience of winning things - at least give Bould, a proven winner in every capacity at the Club a chance in his new role before we damn him to hell.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I don't see us winning anything with Wenger as Manager. We have a team incapable of challenging for the league title, yet he does not care about the domestic cups, so that in itself does not bode well for us winning anything soon.

But, we are talking about an Assistant Manager here - who has recent experience of winning things - at least give Bould, a proven winner in every capacity at the Club a chance in his new role before we damn him to hell.

[cricketsi]

It's ridiculous to come out and praise a manager who's failed for 7 years IMO, they should say nothing...praise should be kept for times it's deserved and he doesn't deserve it.Noone calls him up on his failings on even brings them up, it's always "Arsene he's so great", "He's doing a wonderful job", "he's the best in the business" etc does anyone know of anyone who has failed for so long who has received this much praise, cos I sure don't.I'd love someone to finally confront him in an interview, ask him questions everyone really wants the answers and not the usual cr*p. Maybe they vet the interviews before hand to make sure he can't be asked certain things, it's the only explanation I can think of for noone asking him some of those questions which would put him out of his comfort zone. Indeed after the AGM where awkward questions were asked the club pretty much decided to gag all those who dared to question the policies, manager and club, it's like a friggin dictatorship!

People ask him the questions you suggest all the time. Normally you only see the quotes from managers, not the actual questions put to them. And I'm sure Arsene's an expert at either ignoring the questions or answering instead the question he wanted to hear, so he wouldn't be out of his comfort zone.

[Niall_Quinn]

Arsene is so great, he's doing a wonderful job and he's the best in the business tbf.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

I don't see us winning anything with Wenger as Manager. We have a team incapable of challenging for the league title, yet he does not care about the domestic cups, so that in itself does not bode well for us winning anything soon.

But, we are talking about an Assistant Manager here - who has recent experience of winning things - at least give Bould, a proven winner in every capacity at the Club a chance in his new role before we damn him to hell.

As this thtead is about Bould and his recent appointment I would say that is a :goodposting:

But seeing this is GW and we look for any space to advertise our hatred for AW or damm a person before they start in their role. . .you should expect anything less