Who do you think would have done better than 3rd, behind a team who bought the title and another who can also outspend us and have a better manager?
Who do you think would have done better than 3rd, behind a team who bought the title and another who can also outspend us and have a better manager?
That question always pops up and nobody knew who Wenger was when we signed him.Originally Posted by Letters
I don't think anyone on here has watched enough different leagues and coaches over the years to come up with a realistic answer besides the obvious candidates.
Hell yeah, this guy can't even pick up a tin pot trophy against mickey mouse outfits like Birmingham. He'll builds teams with no bottle who collapse at the mere site of a trophy, he shows blind faith in players who don't deserve it and discriminates against others, he constantly signs nobodies from France just because he wants to pay peanuts and he's tactically inept.
This guy is incapable of winning anymore, when all someone talks about is how great 3rd/4th place is you know you're onto a loser, he's done at this club, in fact he was done several years ago to be honest, if we'd got rid of him then we might actually have a chance of winning things by now.
Wenger has failed in certain ways but while a top 4 finish shouldn't be the limit of our ambitions the sad reality these days is a top 4 finish, with the associated CL qualification, has become more important than a domestic trophy. Clubs below us have spent big year on year to try and unseat us and repeatedly failed. Did you think we'd finish 3rd this year? I bloody didn't. We lost our 2 best midfielders and had a car crash of a start to the season. Everyone wrote us off this year including most of our fans and yet here we are, Wenger's delivered again. We should be winning trophies too of course and that is where Wenger has failed. I do think things need to change at Arsenal but whether the thing is Wenger, or just Wenger, is debatable.
You really hate that we finished 3rd, don't you?
I do think Spurs have really bottled it this year, it seems to me the Redknapp and England job thing seem to really herald the start of their bad run....before that they were miles ahead.
The rest of the teams have been sh*t to be honest, Chelsea have improved but mainly in the cups, it seems they upped their game for those.
If I'm honest, yes.
I don't rate coming 3rd, it in reality pretty meaningless when it seems to be the sum of your ambitions every season (well 4th but we managed 3rd this year). We don't have winners and until some of these players get a taste of real success we'll never get anywhere, success breeds success and 3rd place isn't success.
I don't get any real joy from getting 3rd place, how can it compare to tasting glory in a final?
I still remember win the FA Cup and how amazing that was, the league was great too but one step at a time....as for the CL...it's but a dream for now, in reality Wenger should have won it by now with the amount of opportunities he's had.
One day, maybe one day under a different regime we might taste the glory of being Champions of Europe, that must be amazing to be honest.
Last edited by Özim; 14-05-2012 at 07:30 PM.
League tables never lies
We are where we are. We've finished behind a side who have bought the title and a side who can outspend us and have a better manager. The idea that a manager as bad as you suggest Wenger is could achieve that is laughable.
Would you rather have had Liverpool's season then?
If he says yes, he's lying.
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