you still haven't pointed out where i have said he can't organise a team? please do so.

right, so the cups mean nothing then? so the fans that would've gone nuts at home and at wembley against birmingham would've been making mugs of themselves and arsenal are far and above winning such low tin pots?

i have been a ticket season holder for 20 years, defending wenger all the way until we went round on a loop again this season. it wasn't even the start or middle that got to me but the stumble towards the finish. the realisation isn't a nice one that wenger will not change, the problems with the team will not change until he leaves.

so you are saying wenger forever and ever then?