Middle Class opposition to "Conspicious Consumption"

[Niall_Quinn]

You're still trying to equate what's gone on in the past with this brand new phenomena of the infinitely rich club. And your response seems to be just accept it and let it roll from one extreme to the next. Then you discount the possibility of these super rich guys carving up football for their own benefit. And only snobs would disagree with you, you suggest.

Why didn't the money argument come up last time Utd won it?

[Tipsychubbs]

You're still trying to equate what's gone on in the past with this brand new phenomena of the infinitely rich club.

But you're also trying to imagine the past as some sort of daisy chain paradise where all was fair in love and war and rich clubs never existed as if everything was equal.

And your response seems to be just accept it and let it roll from one extreme to the next.

What is the next extreme that will spell the death knell of football? Ask Lille and Montpellier if the infinitely rich PSG prevented them from competing and winning the title. I am not that bothered about it, even though I think if ffp was enforced more fiercely and if there was some sort of wage/transfer cap then you could make things interesting for those wanting more financial parity. But I'm not holding my breath and I'm not losing sleep over it. It is what it is for now, as I keep saying over and over again as long as its not illegal to have infinite funds, then why can't we just get on with it?

Then you discount the possibility of these super rich guys carving up football for their own benefit.

And why wouldn't they, since they've invested hundreds of millions. Every club works for its own benefit, its no more heinous just because you are infinitely rich. What that benefit is varies from club to club, whether it is to simply stay in the PL, to make profits or to win titles.

Why didn't the money argument come up last time Utd won it?

Exactly, so why is it coming up now? To Norwich City/Swansea City and smaller clubs like those Man U may as well have bottomless pockets, because their transfer funds and wages will be higher than anything they'll be able to afford for a long time, unless they start winning titles, trophies and getting regular CL income.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I agree with you, that having owners who can spend unlimited amounts isn't great for the game, however I don't believe that it completely stops clubs competing, Man U basically had the title sewn up before an inexplicable collapse, this without having a particularly good team.

We can't stop other clubs having huge amounts to spend, I refuse to believe we can't compete though, the problem is that we've decided we don't want to and that's incredibly frustrating.

I'm not sure where you got that from my post. My number one frustration lies with what Arsenal do with the organic resources they generate. We'd be able to compete if we did. We probably wouldn't win even then but at least we'd have a prospect of being competitive. A prospect we don't have now before a ball is even kicked next season.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Tbh, Barton at least 'seems' somewhat intelligent on twitter. Not something you can say about any of your posts.

Coming from you it is a compliment because you cannot even comprehend the insult you received.

[KSE Comedy Club]

But you're also trying to imagine the past as some sort of daisy chain paradise where all was fair in love and war and rich clubs never existed as if everything was equal.What is the next extreme that will spell the death knell of football? Ask Lille and Montpellier if the infinitely rich PSG prevented them from competing and winning the title. I am not that bothered about it, even though I think if ffp was enforced more fiercely and if there was some sort of wage/transfer cap then you could make things interesting for those wanting more financial parity. But I'm not holding my breath and I'm not losing sleep over it. It is what it is for now, as I keep saying over and over again as long as its not illegal to have infinite funds, then why can't we just get on with it?And why wouldn't they, since they've invested hundreds of millions. Every club works for its own benefit, its no more heinous just because you are infinitely rich. What that benefit is varies from club to club, whether it is to simply stay in the PL, to make profits or to win titles.Exactly, so why is it coming up now? To Norwich City/Swansea City and smaller clubs like those Man U may as well have bottomless pockets, because their transfer funds and wages will be higher than anything they'll be able to afford for a long time, unless they start winning titles, trophies and getting regular CL income.

PSG will probably win the title next season tbh.

None of The billionaire owned clubs won the title at the first attempt.

[fakeyank]

Coming from you it is a compliment because you cannot even comprehend the insult you received.

It wasnt retarded enough for me tbh..

[Tipsychubbs]

PSG will probably win the title next season tbh.

None of The billionaire owned clubs won the title at the first attempt.

But will it stop other clubs from being competitive, so there'll be no title race next season at all? Is it a cast-iron guarantee that they'll walk the title with 50 points to spare? If the other clubs maximise their resources and do their best, they won't make it easy for PSG, something that applies to any league with a sugar daddy team/s.

[Xhaka Can’t]

PSG will probably win the title next season tbh.

None of The billionaire owned clubs won the title at the first attempt.

It was a refreshing result, but it won't last.

[Özim]

I'm not sure where you got that from my post. My number one frustration lies with what Arsenal do with the organic resources they generate. We'd be able to compete if we did. We probably wouldn't win even then but at least we'd have a prospect of being competitive. A prospect we don't have now before a ball is even kicked next season.

You talked about how clubs can use unlimited amounts not being a good thing, which I agree. Ok you didn't say specifically we couldn't compete but it's what a lot of people on here seem to think.

Not a view I subscribe to however, put a decent squad together of players who want to win and mix it with some top quality talent and you've got a good chance providing, the tactics and dynamics are right.

[Özim]

PSG will probably win the title next season tbh.

None of The billionaire owned clubs won the title at the first attempt.

Possibly, but it's also got to do with the calibre of manager they attract, the wrong manager can fail miserably.

If other clubs have forward thinking managers who believe they can compete and are willing to do what it takes to compete there's no guarantee a rich club will win. Man U should have won the title this season let's face it, only a collapse on their part denied them, they handed it to City and that's there own fault.