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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    if wenger was to go now, we'd be fucked for next season, wouldnt win a thing, wouldnt qualify for europa league imo. it would throw us into chaos but then thats great for you cos you can moan that board didnt make the right choice
    Ollie,

    Sadly I know people who would be rejoicing if that were to happen. They have built themselves into such a froth over their "hatred" of Wenger that to them relegation would be a price worth paying to get rid of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    Ollie,

    Sadly I know people who would be rejoicing if that were to happen. They have built themselves into such a froth over their "hatred" of Wenger that to them relegation would be a price worth paying to get rid of him.
    Whereas there are some who would love us to be relegated as long as Wenger is in charge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    Ollie,

    Sadly I know people who would be rejoicing if that were to happen. They have built themselves into such a froth over their "hatred" of Wenger that to them relegation would be a price worth paying to get rid of him.
    I don't think there's hatred of Wenger, just anger at his intransigence and inability to see that his method of working has been discredited. Moreover, he has this ideological attachment to player development, and constantly trots out the line that he won't sign players because they could "kill" the youngsters at the club, many of whom have barely developed at all since 2006 (e.g. Bendtner, Diaby, Denilson)

    His apparently principled stance against huge debt doesn't excuse him for not spending the requisite money on top quality players, who would have strengthened our squad and may have helped us win a trophy or two in the last 5-6 years. We haven't been that far away from winning silverware, but because Wenger failed to make the necessary additions to our squad we have fallen by the wayside each time over the last 3 seasons especially. Making those signings wouldn't have significantly increased the debt, because it is entirely possible to find good quality, experienced players for a reasonable transfer fee, like we did with Vermaelen and Sagna.

    I reiterate that a bit of short term pain is worth it, if it allows the club to pursue a new direction without being constrained by ideological biases that have prevented us from achieving what we all feel was within our grasp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Whereas there are some who would love us to be relegated as long as Wenger is in charge
    No. They want Wenger to be in charge because they know under him that will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    I don't think there's hatred of Wenger, just anger at his intransigence and inability to see that his method of working has been discredited. Moreover, he has this ideological attachment to player development, and constantly trots out the line that he won't sign players because they could "kill" the youngsters at the club, many of whom have barely developed at all since 2006 (e.g. Bendtner, Diaby, Denilson)
    For the record, I am not talking about anyone who posts here. Most of these people I am referring to are internet based, do not live in London, and for the most part have never actually been to a live Arsenal game. And while it was initially anger, it has progressed to way beyond that.
    While all answers are responses, not all responses are answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL) View Post
    No. They want Wenger to be in charge because they know under him that will never happen.
    Give us a few more years under Wenger and we'll see

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post


    Yup totally agree Zim, Arsene is the problem.
    Its Me is Zim?
    Putting the laughter back into manslaughter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasri Scoreng View Post
    Its Me is Zim?
    Couldnt you tell from his posts?

    I worked it out straight away

    Zimm

    He knew what would happen to Arsenal before any of us and we didnt listen. Now whos laughing?

    Great poster he is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Give us a few more years under Wenger and we'll see
    Well, you know that Wenger will never get us relegated. He's never failed to secure a top 4 finish and while I agree that should be the minimum expectation for a club of our stature he has delivered that. Also, the fact that it's our minimum expectation now is entirely down to Wenger...

    I'm frustrated by our failings and conflicted about Wenger but people don't want him to stay just 'cos it's him, or because of past glories. If people still want him to stay then it's because in his worst season we got to a Cup Final and finished 4th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    He knew what would happen to Arsenal before any of us and we didnt listen. Now whos laughing?
    From his posts, not him.

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