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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Despite what anyone feels about usmanov, it's clear that red and white holdings is where the real future of the club lies.

    Kronke and co are a fucking shit waste of space, and it's time he sells up and lets a proper owner take over.
    What has to happen for Usmanov to take over from Kroenke and become a major shareholder such that he has the final say on things such as transfer policy?

    I'm honestly not sure what puts the wheels in motion in that respect
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    What has to happen for Usmanov to take over from Kroenke and become a major shareholder such that he has the final say on things such as transfer policy?

    I'm honestly not sure what puts the wheels in motion in that respect
    With any luck it'll begin with hell freezing over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    With any luck it'll begin with hell freezing over.
    Care to state why?

    Your ok with a useless fucking yank and a personal agenda driven board who aren't interested in moving the club forward to be successful, but not ok with a Russian owner and his company who seem to want the club to be successful again, because he has an alleged dodgy past?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Care to state why?
    No. If it isn't obvious then no amount of explanation can help you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    No. If it isn't obvious then no amount of explanation can help you.
    Well it's lost on me then.

    I have already faced the fact that arsenal FC will now only ever be owned by a billionaire.

    The current one has no interest in the club or what happens on the pitch, whereas, pr or not, r&w holdings do seem to care and be interested in the status and success of the club.

    I know which of e two I would prefer to be in ownership and it isn't the first one.

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    Interesting:

    "Alisher Usmanov, potential Arsenal chairman, is a Vicious Thug, Criminal, Racketeer, Heroin Trafficker and Accused Rapist"

    http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archiv...isher_usmanov/
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    Quote Originally Posted by V-Pig View Post
    Interesting:"Alisher Usmanov, potential Arsenal chairman, is a Vicious Thug, Criminal, Racketeer, Heroin Trafficker and Accused Rapist"http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archiv...isher_usmanov/
    Should be playing for Chelsea then...

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    first and foremost it is clear that stan is here for the money. how he makes his money is the interesting part; personally, i think he was sold a vision by the board that he can buy the club and keep mr wenger in charge, and as long as the equilibrium is in place, he will continue to make profit through champions league qualification. he was probably told he doesn't have to invest large amounts of money into the club because we can always hide behind the excuse that city, chelsea etc are big spending clubs and we cant compete against them. as a result, champions league qualification is a 'successful' season and as long as arsene is here, it will probably happen. kroenke will buck out when he feels its the right time to do so, most probably when the new sponsorships have been negotiated in 2014/2015 and wengers contract expires; lets face it, no other manager can do what wenger has done (make profits on a tiny budget), so when wenger leaves and sponsorships have been renegotiated, the latter will cause the value of the club to increase and at that point kroenke can sell and make his millions.

    kroenke has done nothing to suggest he will move away from our existing model and this is why the board hardly make funds available for reinvestment. when they do its usually after our marquee players have been sold, which frees up some money to be spent; we want to follow the self-sustaining model and kroenke certainly doesn't want to risk any of his wealth in the club by putting more money in.

    i would have to say usmanov's statement is quite impeccable, but whether it is impeccably good is up for debate. he clearly knows exactly what the fans want; signings, trophies and general on field success. i do find what he says slightly laughable in the sense that he says he does not want to sabotage anything or destabilise our club, yet by releasing the statement he's doing exactly that. i guess he has no other choice as the board have been repressing his views for years. putting that aside, some interesting things can be taken from the statement; firstly, he seems to be an admirer of wenger and nothing suggests he will sack him if he comes in (although it also suggests that dein was part of this statement and beared a huge influence on how usmanov should declare his hand). secondly, usmanov does seem to be in it for the long term, not just pumping shed loads of money into the club for short term gain. he says he will be here for generations to come and although you have to question the integrity of that statement, its good to see someone who at least share's our view and has some sort of passion for our current turmoil at the club, something that eludes the current board.

    i think the most hypocritical part comes from the fans who want nothing to do with usmanov yet at the same time forget we are in the hands of a multi-millionaire businessman already, a man who only cares about profit. whilst you could argue usmanov is no good for the club because he wants radical change, you could also argue that our current regime is even worse as it's so outdated and restricts our club ever achieving any on field success. nevertheless, it'll be interesting to see what happens and although i was completely against a billionaire taking over, the current board have undermined us and completely disregarded our thoughts to the point where i couldnt care less if a takeover were to happen. thats probably the thing that pisses me off the most; that the current board have made me feel that way when i was so opposed to an oligarch running our club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiltord's Winner View Post
    i think the most hypocritical part comes from the fans who want nothing to do with usmanov yet at the same time forget we are in the hands of a multi-millionaire businessman already, a man who only cares about profit. whilst you could argue usmanov is no good for the club because he wants radical change, you could also argue that our current regime is even worse as it's so outdated and restricts our club ever achieving any on field success. nevertheless, it'll be interesting to see what happens and although i was completely against a billionaire taking over, the current board have undermined us and completely disregarded our thoughts to the point where i couldnt care less if a takeover were to happen. thats probably the thing that pisses me off the most; that the current board have made me feel that way when i was so opposed to an oligarch running our club.
    well you can always find excuses to blame someone else for how you feel.
    kroenke pitched up and what was the fan reaction? fuck off.
    usmanov rolled in and what was the fan reaction? fuck off + we love you stan, you can save us.
    rvp unexpectedly wants to leave - get in usmanov and change the board
    us fans, hypocritical? never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz View Post
    well you can always find excuses to blame someone else for how you feel.
    kroenke pitched up and what was the fan reaction? fuck off.
    usmanov rolled in and what was the fan reaction? fuck off + we love you stan, you can save us.
    rvp unexpectedly wants to leave - get in usmanov and change the board
    us fans, hypocritical? never.
    fickleness is a perpetuated art within modern football, only blossomed by the large sums of money circulating the game.

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