Good Bye RVP!

[Letters]

You've done your defensive part for the past 7 years or so and it's getting tiresome. You have the same conversation with Zimm each week and make constant excuses for Wenger. It's the stadium, sugar daddy, the board...whatever.

All these things are factors. Wenger is also a factor. It's tiresome some people on here ignore those factors, act like Wenger is an idiot and that all our problems would disappear were he replaced. He isn't. They wouldn't.

Utd have the best manager around, arguably the best manager ever. They managed to beat them? Not according to the league table. Goal difference or not, City are champions and beat Utd twice in the league. You're right that they won't win it every year but we now have two billionaire fuelled teams in the league and Utd to compete with. It wasn't like that when Wenger joined.

How do you mean by turn things round? We haven't slumped into mid-table? We're not in decline we're in stagnation. Whether he's the right man to push us on - I agree it's unlikely. Would many managers do better? I doubt it.

[Japan Shaking All Over]

In the article Ach posted from The Express (I know, its a rag :blahblah: but still offering a point to debate - so save it)

Wenger had reservations over RvPs history of injuries and that we shouldnt stand in the way of a decent offer. . .so maybe he isnt such a pussy because there is an argument that we will save money by not busting the bank to keep him, maybe that is why the contract was run down. . .maybe the same is being done for Theo, last chance to prove he isnt shit!

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Finishing 3rd/4th makes me feel no much better than midtable as a fan tbh. It only suits those that want to ensure that a profit is made every year. I think it is high time now we quit harping on this CL spot as some kind of achievement as all we do is make up numbers in that league - we're not winning sh** there.

Some people call last season 3rd place finish a success, but it really wasn't. We were never in the thick of things and a 3rd /4th place finfish was our major goal as opposed to challenging for the league title which should really be our aim every season. Therefore, even though we limped across the line ahead of Spurs, I will loudly trumpet that they had a more successful season than us, as they were real contenders for the title - you know that thing that a club/competitor set out to do every season, right? - though they faltered on the last lap.

Fact is, we compete in various competitions season after season to which we have failed to get our fingerprints on a single silverware. This is inexcusable and must be seen as nothing less than an indictment on both Board and Manager.

[Letters]

Balls. You'd have been moaning your tits off if we'd finished in mid-table last season.
You are anyway I guess, but moreso.

[Power n Glory]

All these things are factors. Wenger is also a factor. It's tiresome some people on here ignore those factors, act like Wenger is an idiot and that all our problems would disappear were he replaced. He isn't. They wouldn't.

Utd have the best manager around, arguably the best manager ever. They managed to beat them? Not according to the league table. Goal difference or not, City are champions and beat Utd twice in the league. You're right that they won't win it every year but we now have two billionaire fuelled teams in the league and Utd to compete with. It wasn't like that when Wenger joined.

How do you mean by turn things round? We haven't slumped into mid-table? We're not in decline we're in stagnation. Whether he's the right man to push us on - I agree it's unlikely. Would many managers do better? I doubt it.

Man Utd won it the year before when Mancini was first in charge, also City had the period where Mark Hughes was in charge and bought Robinho. Point is, you still need to build a team and get everyone working as a unit. People don't ignore the factors because we've had seasons where we should have won the title but lost points to lesser teams because the pressure got to the team and coach.

[Coney]

Finishing 3rd/4th makes me feel no much better than midtable as a fan tbh.

I kind of understand that. For me, the repeated finishing in 3rd/4th when it seems that by just getting rid of one or two bits of dross and spending 10-20 million, we might have won a title or two. Perhaps not, but the the lack of trying that out and the feeling that we could nick a trophy or two is what I find very frustrating.

Wenger does generally do a good job but I think he has fallen into a rut and we need him to break out of that.

[Flavs]

God have we not sold this **** yet

[Özil's Panoramic View]

Balls. You'd have been moaning your tits off if we'd finished in mid-table last season.
You are anyway I guess, but moreso.

It's not like the EPL subscribes to round robin format so I can feel excited about my team being in the semi-finals so.......

[Letters]

It's not like the EPL subscribes to round robin format so I can feel excited about my team being in the semi-finals so.......

But it does qualify us for the CL so......

[Fist of Lehmann]

Nope, and thanks to Van Persie's statement every bugger knows he wants to leave this summer.

Any interested party can just let it drag on and on, screwing us over on both price and limiting our ability to get our own business done. On the flipside, the board need to decide how much they're going to hold out for.

Potentially it could be death by 1000 cuts again this summer...

The only hope is that Rvp is willing to go to more than 1 club, we forment a bidding war, prompting buyers to try to get things sown up earlier.