if AW spends big and we get a torres, what happens?

[budesonide]

Whoa there. We chose to sell Vieira, he didn't get fed up and walk out.
Henry left but he was past his best and had family problems.
Cesc...not sure about him but he's made no secret of his desire to go to Barca at some point so him going would be no surprise.

I agree with a lot of your post but to say these players could see the problems and left because of them is just plain wrong.

In vieira's last years he also hinted at the at the fact that we were not being competitive enough to win the CL. He should have left the year before he actually did. I am not saying he walked out -- he wanted out. You can spin that to say we sold him when we wanted to, but he wanted out and you know it. And so did henry. Perhaps henry was most vocal about it all -- he came out with the fact that promises were made about the strengthening of the squad which never came to pass -- he even publicly declared we should go out and sign wright-phillips to signal some ambition. Goonersweb turned on henry claiming he has become bigger than the club and that his beviour was stifling the development of the youngsters.

You couldn't possibly believe cesc's behaviour is new, could you?

[Letters]

In vieira's last years he also hinted at the at the fact that we were not being competitive enough to win the CL. He should have left the year before he actually did. I am not saying he walked out -- he wanted out. You can spin that to say we sold him when we wanted to, but he wanted out and you know it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/4433324.stm

"Arsenal did nothing to keep me. The bottom line is they could have kept me. I saw myself finishing my career at Arsenal. I thought I would be at the club for another three years. I don't know if they needed the money for players or the new stadium, but it was their decision to sell me."

I remember this sort of story from the time. We chose to sell him, he said so himself.

[budesonide]

[QUOTE=Letters (TPFKA WWTL@WHL);1723]http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/4433324.stm

I shall also try finding the news articles to back up my post.

Have you conceded the henry one then?

[Letters]

Have you conceded the henry one then?

I'm not sure what you're saying about Henry. We had his best years and he certainly wasn't critical of the club when he left:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6233928.stm

He also left around the time of his marriage breaking up, that may have been a factor. He certainly gave no indication he was just fed up of the way things were going and walked out.

[budesonide]

I'm not sure what you're saying about Henry. We had his best years and he certainly wasn't critical of the club when he left:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/6233928.stm

He also left around the time of his marriage breaking up, that may have been a factor. He certainly gave no indication he was just fed up of the way things were going and walked out.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...on-349069.html

http://www.wldcup.com/news/2003May/2...ld_soccer.html


"If I see at any time that Arsenal don't do everything to try to win trophies, that their ambitions no longer match mine, then that's it." -- Patrick Vieira



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...al/1487068.stm

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http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...on-349069.html

http://www.wldcup.com/news/2003May/2...ld_soccer.html


"If I see at any time that Arsenal don't do everything to try to win trophies, that their ambitions no longer match mine, then that's it." -- Patrick Vieira



http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...al/1487068.stm

ALL of those articles are from way before Vieira left. They may contain quotes where he complains about this or that after a disappointing result or season but I don't see how that's relevant. The quotes I posted are from when he left which is what we were talking about. When he did it was our choice to sell him, not his choice to leave because of frustrations about how things were going.

[budesonide]

ALL of those articles are from way before Vieira left. They may contain quotes where he complains about this or that after a disappointing result or season but I don't see how that's relevant. The quotes I posted are from when he left which is what we were talking about. When he did it was our choice to sell him, not his choice to leave because of frustrations about how things were going.

we barely managed the FA cup in his last season didn't we? I shall dig up more.

and, re: henry, you are speculating or merely deducing 1+4 to be equal to ten. I assume that is what you originally accused me of?