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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Why the need to be rude, i was never rude to you or insulted you but you have to me for no reason, no way i will debate with someone like you again.
    Don't waste your breath Charlie.

    The guys a troll plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Don't waste your breath Charlie.

    The guys a troll plain and simple.
    Its cool he/she is on ignore now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tpyo View Post
    No reason to. It's not like he's losing money by owning the club unlike all the other owners who are twitchy about their debts (Man U's recent flotation) or keep having to pour more money in (Chelski, Citeh, Pool).
    Even if he did as long as he does decent diligence with the next owner who comes in (please NOT Usamov) then the club will remain safe.
    What i mean though is that Abramovich and Co. could also do the same. Abramovich has already made his money --- if he decides to flog chelsea an attach all the money he has pumped into it as debt no one in their right mind would buy it. I am sure he knows that.

    Kroenke on the other hand could be said to be ensuring that his share value never diminishes. Who is the moneygrabber here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Don't waste your breath Charlie.

    The guys a troll plain and simple.


    Always was.

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    I think if you accept that we're a feeder club and fourth place is really first for us, then half the frustration goes out the window. The other half (that we're the 4th richest club in the world) grates a bit but if you also accept that the club is run on very pragmatic lines and won't go bust, then that bit goes too.

    Simples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    Spot on Being a fan is about following the team though good and tha bad not just being a glory hunter. Real fans love the club no matter what.

    If your done be done.
    That would be true at any period in the past, but it's not necessarily true now. Depends if such a thing as Arsenal Football Club exists in reality any more. Yeah sure, the bricks and mortar are there, there are players as such, staff or sorts, owners (provided you can afford long distance calls), fans. But the love of what we grew up with, is that still there? Maybe it is for the diehards, although surely it has waned? There were diehards in the trenches of WWI too - fighting for king and country, something worth dying for. Right? And then there was the truth and a pile of bodies and wasted lives. Loyalty, honour, duty, through thick and thin - always thin for us but stiff upper lip.

    There's no way I feel as much excitement about the game as I did in years (decades to be honest) past. There's nothing to believe in in this game any more, no heroes, no character villains (just the real ones like the racists and thugs), no fairy tales (the FA cup is one giant bag of shit), no Roy of the Rovers, no When Saturday Comes. It's just one huge commercialised stream of vomit with everyone drenched from head to foot and hyping the noxious fumes while holding their noses and averting their eyes. From crime ridden governing bodies down through the clubs who fly in the face of the modern struggle against economic depression, the miserable, soulless money automatons that have replaced the players, the revolving door managers - when does loyalty run out? Is loyalty an absolute regardless of the abuse? Loyal like a beaten dog? Where did this flawless adherence originate? From a hangover gained while drinking with the #9 from your boyhood team in the local boozer - him telling you how footie was great because he had a few quid more than you for doing what he loved doing? From the memoires of your father?

    I remember sticking with the club through thick and thin. Remember it well. But I look now and I don't see a club any more. And I wonder, should I just be loyal out of habit? Loyal when there's nothing to pin that loyalty too? The red and white shirt - oh and now the blue bits too. Fuck that for another game of soldiers and fuck all the ****s who stole something good and turned it rancid. Scum that know the price of everything and delight in destroying as much value as they can. The fucking devil's spawn. Is it the trait of a glory hunter to point a finger at a fat, thieving fuck and demand it give back what has been stolen and debased? Maybe. In which case, after all these years, I'll take the tag of "Glory Hunter" and wear it without a blush. If that's a glory hunter then we need more of them - in sport, politics, economics, education. Enough is enough isn't is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dicks and chicks View Post
    its stupid, it just doesn't make sense. You can't win in it unless you have petro millions, you either go one way of spending more than your club earns to achieve short term success or you spend little like us and accumulate profit but then the fans are angry because money isn't being invested in the club? Its all stupid anyway, all that kicking of a ball for a few trophies. Football clubs just don't make sense as a business they don't perform how a business does. The alex song and van persie transfers were the final straw for me.
    I see what you mean. Well i havent actually read your post but im replying to the thread title.

    I dont really care about players coming or going, that will always happen. What i do care about is players giving a fuck and today to go with last season and the season before, its clear they dont.

    The players dont give a fuck about the fans and we feel no connection to them.

    Football is at its lowest ebb it has ever been on in my 70 years of watching this sport. Oh for the days of Chapman and Mee

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    I see what you mean. Well i havent actually read your post but im replying to the thread title.

    I dont really care about players coming or going, that will always happen. What i do care about is players giving a fuck and today to go with last season and the season before, its clear they dont.

    The players dont give a fuck about the fans and we feel no connection to them.

    Football is at its lowest ebb it has ever been on in my 70 years of watching this sport. Oh for the days of Chapman and Mee
    70 years

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    What i do care about is players giving a fuck and today to go with last season and the season before, its clear they dont.

    The players dont give a fuck about the fans and we feel no connection to them.
    That's about it. Nothing new, been going on for years. But it can't go on forever without consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    70 years
    Did i spell 70 wrong?

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