Quote Originally Posted by Ice Berg Kamping View Post
Again. 2 different issues, I think.

I don't think it's seriously doubted that Wenger's gamble with a development team has not really worked out (albeit that this is a relative concept - given that it has at least kept us in CL football, unlike some of our bigger spending peers). It seems self-evident that in hindsight we have overpaid players who have failed to deliver, and this has hurt us by leaving them difficult to shift, and using up our cash resources.

But I'm not so sure the answer is as simple as many on here seem to think. Bottom line is that the only world class players we have had for 5 years have been development players. Unknowns or kids that the manager has seen potential in and developed. Players that in many cases we have had to reward relatively richly to come to us rather than our more illustrious competitors. We might all agree that we have gone too top heavy on prospects rather than the so-called proven talent, but it seems to me ironic that on the one hand some lament the departures of players like Hleb; Adebayor; Toure; Cesc; Na$ri; RVP and Song, but on the other forget that all of these players were completely, or relatively unknown when they arrived.

And lets fact it - we cannot afford an Aguero; a Silva; a Torres or a Mata with the competition there is out there - and couldnlt do so even if we did not have, say, 4 or 5 of the players whom we now can't shift. Sure, you can buy the likes of Arteta - but he is a very good player, not a world class one. Some of the players we have developed have been world class - and its basically the only way we can have world class players in our team these days. It seems churlish to criticise completely the system that has resulted in this.

Next - I'm not sure our want away problem is to do with planning/timing. What do people want the club to do? Reward players who become want away before they have proven themselves; or cut off their noses to spite their faces by 'getting in first' to flog them before they make Van Persie type announcements. We would like to keep Walcott, sure, but has he really done sufficient to justify a large price tag? Should he be keeping Oxlade on the bench? What should the club do? The fact is that football is player and agent led these days. You either have deep enough pockets to buy loyalty, or you do your best to keep your best assets, but are basically beholden to them - more so once they start performing.

A catch 22 IMO.
When you put your eggs into one basket and it does not work out, then this is how things turn out in most instances. Man Utd won the league with kids from their academy built around some experience, which is something we decided not to do and eventually put us into this corner. So what then happens is you may develop some stars as we have and the talent ratio across the team becomes disproportionate, so regardless of how they were developed they eventually stand head and shoulders over the rest of a squad that has not been supplemented correctly. That is bad planning of a myopic vision.

The system we have of buying players from the ‘middle’ tier is fine, but again players like Cham and Park for example are not being used, so what is the point of using them? Surely if we are in danger of losing yet another key player to the team it would make sense to pay the going rate to maintain some sort of status quo, instead of this constant feeling of being in transition.

Justifying a price tag no longer counts I believe. No one, not one player – including Messi – can justify the wages they take home every month. If the club can find a way to justify paying for players like Denilson, Park, Cham, Bendtner etc for so long, then arguing against Walcotts rumoured demands seems pointless. Just pay the money. What does it matter anymore? None of them really earn their rate, none of them have any loyalty and it well serve to provide much needed stability in the squad – surely that counts for more than paying for Arshavin to keep his British visa or Park to escape military duty?