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    Fuck it - let everyone air their grievances whenever they want, whenever they want. That should help the team along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Fuck it - let everyone air their grievances whenever they want, whenever they want. That should help the team along.
    You know what's weird? The amount of effort someone will go to to pretend to be an Arsenal fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    You know what's weird? The amount of effort someone will go to to pretend to be an Arsenal fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    You know what's weird? The amount of effort someone will go to to pretend to be an Arsenal fan.

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    My feeling is that Carl Sagan is probably off in the Summer, most likely to City, and this is just the opening gambit of the usual 'I want a transfer without losing my loyalty bonus' dance.

    From Arsenal's point of view, he fits the profile. 29, and his stock is high. He'll have 1 year left and the number of games he missed with injury last season, albeit with impact injuries, probably will inform that descision too. Any new contract will involve rising wages for diminishing returns - at least that's the rationale behind the over 30's policy. Like Van Persie, this looks like the perfect time to cash in.

    From Sanga's point of view, this is also the perfect time to cash in. I don't doubt he wants to win things, but would he take a pay cut to do so? Does the Pope shit on bears? No.

    He is a fantastic right back, one I would happily keep at the club till 32-33. So losing him would be another gutpunch to the team and the fans. But this is the reality. Doesn't matter how much they pose in 'Number 1 Fan' shirts, or talk about Spurs as 'the enemy'. Players don't love the club in the same way as we do, and they won't stay because of it.

    For the record, I don't like what Saang has done. It's not 'honesty' to say whatever you feel.
    Honesty is facing up to the situation, it's attending to your responsibilities. He agreed to accept large amounts of money in exchange for certain responsibilties, among them, discretion in the press. Most companies with a public profile have this in a standard Code of Conduct.
    Why? Because public negativity causes loss of confidence, and loss of confidence impacts everything from brand value to team morale. You only have to look at Ratners for the ultimate example of a PR disaster.

    He may only be voicing what a lot a fans are thinking, but as an insider, his voice carries more weight than ours, saying he understands why fans are nervous is a de facto vote of no confidence. If he wanted freedom of speech he shouldn't have sold it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    My feeling is that Carl Sagan is probably off in the Summer, most likely to City, and this is just the opening gambit of the usual 'I want a transfer without losing my loyalty bonus' dance.

    From Arsenal's point of view, he fits the profile. 29, and his stock is high. He'll have 1 year left and the number of games he missed with injury last season, albeit with impact injuries, probably will inform that descision too. Any new contract will involve rising wages for diminishing returns - at least that's the rationale behind the over 30's policy. Like Van Persie, this looks like the perfect time to cash in.

    From Sanga's point of view, this is also the perfect time to cash in. I don't doubt he wants to win things, but would he take a pay cut to do so? Does the Pope shit on bears? No.

    He is a fantastic right back, one I would happily keep at the club till 32-33. So losing him would be another gutpunch to the team and the fans. But this is the reality. Doesn't matter how much they pose in 'Number 1 Fan' shirts, or talk about Spurs as 'the enemy'. Players don't love the club in the same way as we do, and they won't stay because of it.

    For the record, I don't like what Saang has done. It's not 'honesty' to say whatever you feel.
    Honesty is facing up to the situation, it's attending to your responsibilities. He agreed to accept large amounts of money in exchange for certain responsibilties, among them, discretion in the press. Most companies with a public profile have this in a standard Code of Conduct.
    Why? Because public negativity causes loss of confidence, and loss of confidence impacts everything from brand value to team morale. You only have to look at Ratners for the ultimate example of a PR disaster.

    He may only be voicing what a lot a fans are thinking, but as an insider, his voice carries more weight than ours, saying he understands why fans are nervous is a de facto vote of no confidence. If he wanted freedom of speech he shouldn't have sold it.
    Sensible post. Players want to be treated like regular employees because of the liberty and advantages that brings, but they want to shun the standard conditions of a regular work contract because that often suits them too. Have their cake, eat it, then shit it out on the fans. Not good enough really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    Does the Pope shit on bears?
    what happens in the vatican, stays in the vatican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fist of Lehmann View Post
    My feeling is that Carl Sagan is probably off in the Summer, most likely to City, and this is just the opening gambit of the usual 'I want a transfer without losing my loyalty bonus' dance.

    From Arsenal's point of view, he fits the profile. 29, and his stock is high. He'll have 1 year left and the number of games he missed with injury last season, albeit with impact injuries, probably will inform that descision too. Any new contract will involve rising wages for diminishing returns - at least that's the rationale behind the over 30's policy. Like Van Persie, this looks like the perfect time to cash in.

    From Sanga's point of view, this is also the perfect time to cash in. I don't doubt he wants to win things, but would he take a pay cut to do so? Does the Pope shit on bears? No.

    He is a fantastic right back, one I would happily keep at the club till 32-33. So losing him would be another gutpunch to the team and the fans. But this is the reality. Doesn't matter how much they pose in 'Number 1 Fan' shirts, or talk about Spurs as 'the enemy'. Players don't love the club in the same way as we do, and they won't stay because of it.

    For the record, I don't like what Saang has done. It's not 'honesty' to say whatever you feel.
    Honesty is facing up to the situation, it's attending to your responsibilities. He agreed to accept large amounts of money in exchange for certain responsibilties, among them, discretion in the press. Most companies with a public profile have this in a standard Code of Conduct.
    Why? Because public negativity causes loss of confidence, and loss of confidence impacts everything from brand value to team morale. You only have to look at Ratners for the ultimate example of a PR disaster.

    He may only be voicing what a lot a fans are thinking, but as an insider, his voice carries more weight than ours, saying he understands why fans are nervous is a de facto vote of no confidence. If he wanted freedom of speech he shouldn't have sold it.


    I'm afraid its a sign of the times when an up to now model professional feels it necessary to go public with this. Sad times.
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