1985 European Cup final in Belgium.
A dilapidated stadium falling to bits was chosen to host the final instead of the likes of the Bernebeu for reasons unknown. Between the two sets of fans there was meant to be a neutral area of Belgians, something neither side wanted divided by a flimsy fence and chicken wire. Somewhat inevitably that area actually became a mixed area of both Liverpool and Juventus fans, though the vast majority being Italian. The area wasn't policed and also inevitably hooligans from both sides started to throw missiles and goad each other. As it got worse a group of thuggish Liverpool fans attempted to storm the Juventus side and as both sets of fans rushed to that side, either to get away or to get at, a retaining wall collapsed killing 39 people.
Something we took far too long to take responsibility for and something for which Juve still, generally, hate Liverpool for, which is fair enough, and something people bring up whenever Hillsborough is mentioned.
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Sounds like something good has finally happened.
That said, anyone who only didn't/doesn't buy The Sun because of Hillsborough is a fucktard. Shouldn't buy it anyway because it's a piece of shit.
"Despair is a narcotic. It lulls the mind into indifference."
kelvin mackenzie has apologised. well i say apologised, he just released a statemetn saying he was sorry for his headline when really he is just sorry that the truth came out and he got caught.
i vote that we put him in a locked container with piers morgan and throw in the sea. get rid of two ****s in one go
It always scares me with the strength of feeling that these sorts of events generate even amongst those far removed from personal tragedy, and I say that as someone on their side against The Scum and 1980s policing.
Even if I didn't support their struggle for justice I wouldn't say anything in the same way I'd be wary of saying anything too critical of fanatical religion.
Football = religion, I guess?
"Despair is a narcotic. It lulls the mind into indifference."
someone made an interesting point on twitter. they asked a question wether mackenzie is actually innocent in this, and that his sources which were a tory mp at the time and the police fed him false infomation as part of the cover up and used him to help with it.
its an interesting scenario, i think its bollocks but there could be something to it?
If that was true, then he is completely incompetent at his job and has been for barely checking the facts during 23 years. Given his job was to provide base-level stories to the brainless few, I wouldn't have thought he had betrayed his job remit.
Even if he was mislead at the time, a decent journalist (and I say that knowing he was at the Sun and there is little to no chance of being a decent journalist there) would try and corroborate that information without just printing highly inflammatory lies for the sales.
And even then, he continued right up to today saying basically that he had no sympathy with the families and that he was never sorry for what he said.
He can rot.