He seems to answer a whole lot of questions if you ask me, maybe he should do a bit less of that and work on his team and signings a bit more, you never know we might actually win something then!Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
The guy never shuts up, just look at his post match rants.....he doesn't need to be asked to complain about everyone else.
And has Abromovich any grounds to complain?
No; it is just that he is not rich enough to pull off such a stunt and he has had plenty of time to infuse as much money into chelsea already to get them to a top level. Wanker (I mean Abramovich:
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
You just called it bro.
I reckon this thread is a prime example of Wenger bashing. He is right. And the Citeh deal does concern him because of its implications. Citeh are a cancer, because not only can and do they outspend everyone else with no consequences, but they poison the market and de-stabilise other clubs while doing it. This issue is just taking the piss and it should be highlighted by as many people as possible.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
So do Real,Barca,Chelsea,Man U. My point is, I believe the market was that way (or headed that way) -- as far as AFC is concerned -- long before Man City got taken over.
And frankly, no one knows the details of the deal yet; let's hold fire and let the necessary regulators look into it or until the full details are known.
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‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
I disagree. Yes the other clubs you have mentioned have a similar effect - but they have also earnt their 'go to' status over time, rather than just buying it; and stockpiling players that they don;t even need.
As for the reality of the deal. If you really think Ł400M represents market value for naming rights, I suggest that you look at other deals and come back to me...This thing stinks - and its bloody obvious.
Putting the laughter back into manslaughter
chelsea certainly has.
i repeat, no one -- absolutely no one -- knows the full details of the deal.
‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’
The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!
Not disagreeing, but it's a way of life and you have to adapt to the situation at the end of the day.
We knew this stuff was going to happen, this reminds me of the stadium project in many ways. We used it to supposedly compete with the big boys and then rich owners bought up clubs, our reaction was to spend little and minimise investment in the team whilst overpaying unproven members of the squad.
You can play the victim or you can work on finding an answer.
Well, if the reported figures are correct (theoretically we have no reason to assume they're right but journalists must have SOME source of information, right?) then it's either an astonishing coincidence that an organisation their owner has very close ties to has invested a crazy amount right before financial fair play comes in or it's an attempt to circumvent the new rules, I tend not to believe in coincidences when so much money is involved, people tend to get serious about that, so I think there's every reason to be suspicious.
Man City have done precisely what FIFA claimed they wanted to stamp out, and they've sneaked it in before the regulations are in effect. If the major football authorities weren't utterly corrupt organisations from top to bottom I'd expect them to act on this as City have quite blatantly rigged their books by dumping insider money into them. This is why all lawyers should be killed. Every person with an ounce of common sense knows what's going on but the lawyers will squash that common sense and bind everything in technicalities, and they'll even sue for damages and win through weight of financing should any action be taken against them. Which it won't.
Wenger is 100% right in what he says but 100% wrong to say it. What's the point? Does he think the authorities are going to act? Does he think if he constantly moans about the shady scumbags at City they will turn over a new leaf? These guys are criminals hiding behind a business front, just like all the major oil and real estate operations in the world today. Wenger preaching to them will do precisely nothing and achieve precisely nothing.
Big business = big corruption in every industry, in all cases and in all times. You can't name a single major corporation that isn't a criminal operation if you look to the spirit of the law rather than the letter. That's why we have the letter of the law, to kill the spirit. I appreciate Wenger's concern and I even think he's genuine and not playing an angle, despite the fact sanctions against city would be very good for us. But it will never (ever) happen, because they have too much money - doesn't he comprehend this? We might get sanctioned if we make enough noise though, just as the whistleblower usually gets it up the arse by exposing the crook.
It would be better if he just said we'll beat them anyway, no matter what they get up to. And then he should sort out his own team to ensure that happens.
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