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    Who gives a fu*ck.

    It's the so-called sponsor's money -- they can invest in whichever club they farking want. That is the art of exploiting rules to you advantage in the business world.

    That is where the sport is headed -- pure business. That is how wenger sees it -- as business. Big businesses are 'dirty'. That is the real world.
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    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    Who gives a fu*ck.

    It's the so-called sponsor's money -- they can invest in whichever club they farking want. That is the art of exploiting rules to you advantage in the business world.

    That is where the sport is headed -- pure business. That is how wenger sees it -- as business. Big businesses are 'dirty'. That is the real world.
    I would like to say "people like you who ignorantly drop there trousers to big businesses *because that's how the world works* are the reason institutions like News Corp etc etc exist" - but I won't.

    You can't bitch about someone crying foul over some rule breaking, especially if it's in his interests to do so, and action is likely to be taken against it.

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    Both of you bitches go to sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    I would like to say "people like you who ignorantly drop there trousers to big businesses *because that's how the world works* are the reason institutions like News Corp etc etc exist" - but I won't.

    You can't bitch about someone crying foul over some rule breaking, especially if it's in his interests to do so, and action is likely to be taken against it.
    which rule has city broken?

    in fact it is unlikely --- which is why in wenger's rant he spouted that a cap should be placed on how much sponsorship a club can get. That is farking bollocks.

    and that is what make all of this outrage so desperate. It is not grounded in any reality.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    which rule has city broken?

    in fact it is unlikely --- which is why in wenger's rant he spouted that a cap should be placed on how much sponsorship a club can get. That is farking bollocks.

    and that is what make all of this outrage so desperate. It is not grounded in any reality.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...l-2313112.html
    However, detailed analysis of Uefa's 91-page Licensing and Fair Play regulations by The Independent reveals that the family relationships between City and its sponsor may fall foul of Uefa's "related party" test.
    Sorry, but you are not grounded in any reality I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by budesonide View Post
    Who gives a fu*ck.

    It's the so-called sponsor's money -- they can invest in whichever club they farking want. That is the art of exploiting rules to you advantage in the business world.

    That is where the sport is headed -- pure business. That is how wenger sees it -- as business. Big businesses are 'dirty'. That is the real world.
    All true unfortunately. City have sneaked in before the regulations "slam" down so there's nothing anyone can do about it. Not unless somebody wants to run that "fit person" test, in which case they are well and truly fucked. Trouble is, I think the stupid cunts in authority think that test has something to do with being able to chase money as fast as possible, therefore the richer they are the fitter they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    All true unfortunately. City have sneaked in before the regulations "slam" down so there's nothing anyone can do about it. Not unless somebody wants to run that "fit person" test, in which case they are well and truly fucked. Trouble is, I think the stupid cunts in authority think that test has something to do with being able to chase money as fast as possible, therefore the richer they are the fitter they are.
    When this thread started I think one of the main points is that AW should just keep his mouth shut.......and not try to come across as whiter than white, good point and there are times when Wenger acts like a spoilt brat especially when thinking that every ref has it in for us or that every penalty decision goes against us.........at those times I couldn't agree more but the man is also allowed to have an opinion and I think it was Zimm who mentioned that he shouldn't feel like he has to police every situation and just get on with the job at hand! this I also agree with as we do have problems that need our manager's immediate attention but I do also think that.........

    the stupid cunts in authority
    don't know how to police themselves let alone a business conglomerate the size of Citeh - World Cup bids.......etc so we are left with the likes of Wenger and SAF, Maureen to state a few home truths

    However it still remains that there isn't much we can do about it as it is not just the size of one's account that allows them to pass 'the fitness test', it's their business acumen, whether it all above board or of a slightly shady nature that also allows them to lead the pack..........but as much as the likes of Wenger or Roman moan about being slighted they should be careful of throw stones in glasshouses as it does not also need to take a huge about of delving to find discrepancies in the majority of books.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...l-2313112.html


    Sorry, but you are not grounded in any reality I'm afraid.

    Care to elaborate on how exactly city's sponsor falls short of that? Or is that just another newspaper hyperbole you have copied and posted.

    Because there is no farking way ueafa can uphold such a ridiculous rule. Post that entire rule here and show me how city's deal breaks it.

    City are not that stupid.
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    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    When this thread started I think one of the main points is that AW should just keep his mouth shut.......and not try to come across as whiter than white, good point and there are times when Wenger acts like a spoilt brat especially when thinking that every ref has it in for us or that every penalty decision goes against us.........at those times I couldn't agree more but the man is also allowed to have an opinion and I think it was Zimm who mentioned that he shouldn't feel like he has to police every situation and just get on with the job at hand! this I also agree with as we do have problems that need our manager's immediate attention but I do also think that.........



    don't know how to police themselves let alone a business conglomerate the size of Citeh - World Cup bids.......etc so we are left with the likes of Wenger and SAF, Maureen to state a few home truths

    However it still remains that there isn't much we can do about it as it is not just the size of one's account that allows them to pass 'the fitness test', it's their business acumen, whether it all above board or of a slightly shady nature that also allows them to lead the pack..........but as much as the likes of Wenger or Roman moan about being slighted they should be careful of throw stones in glasshouses as it does not also need to take a huge about of delving to find discrepancies in the majority of books.......
    good
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    I still maintain all of this to be knee-jerk reaction. Reality is kicking in for most.
    Last edited by budesonide; 14-07-2011 at 07:23 AM.
    ‘Arsene was very cautious and David was very ambitious for the club,’ said former director Keith Edelman, managing director at the time. ‘He was very good at getting Arsene into a position where he was comfortable spending money.’

    The board have said if wenger identifies a player he really wants and he needs the money it's there. Wenger doesn't think it's worth it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Japan Shaking All Over View Post
    When this thread started I think one of the main points is that AW should just keep his mouth shut.......and not try to come across as whiter than white, good point and there are times when Wenger acts like a spoilt brat especially when thinking that every ref has it in for us or that every penalty decision goes against us.........at those times I couldn't agree more but the man is also allowed to have an opinion and I think it was Zimm who mentioned that he shouldn't feel like he has to police every situation and just get on with the job at hand! this I also agree with as we do have problems that need our manager's immediate attention but I do also think that.........



    don't know how to police themselves let alone a business conglomerate the size of Citeh - World Cup bids.......etc so we are left with the likes of Wenger and SAF, Maureen to state a few home truths

    However it still remains that there isn't much we can do about it as it is not just the size of one's account that allows them to pass 'the fitness test', it's their business acumen, whether it all above board or of a slightly shady nature that also allows them to lead the pack..........but as much as the likes of Wenger or Roman moan about being slighted they should be careful of throw stones in glasshouses as it does not also need to take a huge about of delving to find discrepancies in the majority of books.......
    passing comment on something or someone else doesn't distract you from the task at hand, it's not like he was asked to write a white paper on the subject and present it to the industry.

    you are right that no one has the perfect, whiter-than-white history but in that regard it would mean no-one would ever be in a position to pass any sort of comment on anyone else. obviously that sort of world would be crazy; so whenever you talk about someone else in a negative light, then your pass transgressions are also pulled out of the woodwork. absolutlely everyone will put on a clean front - that they hold the moral and intelligent high ground; something called self belief and confidence. without that, then nothing would ever be achieved as everything would be eternally debated with no real conviction to push through to a final solution.

    obviously no one knows the details of man city's recent deal but given the high level of suspicision surrounding it from many within the game, then there is a more than enough reason to debate the details. much like people moan that a football forum is there to discuss all the bollocks fed to us by the media, players and managers then wenger is opening this out on a wider scale, to the 'industry forum'. nothing more than a point of view or opinion thrown out to the ether.

    there are plenty of other people that have plenty to say about wengers methods in the transfer markets (with regards to kids etc) so as there is no whitewash to prevent them from doing so, then wenger should feel free to do the same on subjects that worry or interest him. i'm sure he's intelligent enough not to worry about negative comments toward him or to feel those comments should be stopped either.
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