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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    But it isn't supposed to be about the money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    I don't really get your argument. If he's not good enough to get in our team then why spend £5m a year on his wages? We'd be better off letting him leave for free.

    If Rosicky and Wilshere ever get fit I don't think Walcott will make our bench.

    He's fucked.
    @GB – Certain fans are pushing that argument and if we want to go down that route, then at least do the math and think logically.

    @ Grebbo - We have wasted more money on players like Chamakh, Park and Squillaci in a year. Theo could still contribute more than all three players by just coming off the bench. But if this were a simple case of not matching his wage demands, it makes no sense to lose a player for free over such a small fee. £75k is £3.9 million a year. £100k is £5.2m a year. Would £1.3m really stretch us so much that we'd go bankrupt? It makes no business sense in allowing him to walk on a free when his market value is at least £15m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joker View Post
    I think we should at least try him out upfront tbh. If Wenger's willing to play Gervinho there (who's not a typical centre forward) then Walcott should be given an opportunity as well.
    i agree with Joker, let theo loose v coventry. perfect chance to test him out up front. if he doesnt even get to play up front v coventry he wont ever play up front for us.

    if the rest of the team can just provide for him, it doesnt need him to be a great link player at all. we have enough players to link and create, we need someone to finish. IMO (blind belief) theo can do that. dont ask him to do other stuff, that can be done by the cazorlas etc.

    As an example, when spurs had bent they had the creative players around him and that allowed him to do what he is best at, running onto through balls to finish, cos that is all he can do. why cant theo be our bent type player. someone just to sit on the defenders shoulders, make the good runs he can and then just finish the through balls.

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    Dont really see the problem with at least trying Theo up front.

    We have tried Gerv whos a bit shit and Giroud who cant score

    Theo is better than both and if anything, it will quicken up our play hopefully instead of the wengeritis artetaesque pass pass pass, chance for a quick through ball but no lets pass back, pass pass pass shite we play

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post

    @ Grebbo - We have wasted more money on players like Chamakh, Park and Squillaci in a year. Theo could still contribute more than all three players by just coming off the bench. But if this were a simple case of not matching his wage demands, it makes no sense to lose a player for free over such a small fee. £75k is £3.9 million a year. £100k is £5.2m a year. Would £1.3m really stretch us so much that we'd go bankrupt? It makes no business sense in allowing him to walk on a free when his market value is at least £15m.
    He's in the final year of his contract, we are a selling club, yet nobody bid for him in the summer. Only the top 3 and Pool will pay his wages and I'm making a wild assumption that only Pool out of those clubs would want him. They couldn't find £5m for Dempsey so I'm not convinced they'll buy Walcott for £15m and £5m per season.

    He thinks he's worth more than he is and so do you by the sounds of it.

    He's a pretty good winger, no more than that. He's at the same kinda level as Lennon and he wont be earning anything like £75k per week.

    I understand that you don't think it's worth losing him for free for the sake of a couple of million quid per year in wages. My argument is he doesn't make the bench if we have our best 18 players available. It doesn't make sense to pay someone who doesn't make the bench, we have too many of those already! (Arsh, Chamspak etc)

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    Hes much better than Lennon, Young, Nani, Bale etc

    What are they on?

    Not that it matters cos its not about the money. Hes a striker and he wants to play upfront. Hes done his best on the right and hes done well but its time he moved up front. We have plenty of options to play on the right and not so much upfront

    Its a no brainer. Unfortunately Wenger has no brain

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    Give him his chance V's Coventry.

    Then he can put up, or shut up.
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ach View Post
    Its a no brainer. Unfortunately Wenger has no brain
    Then he'd get it right wouldn't he you fuckface!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    He's in the final year of his contract, we are a selling club, yet nobody bid for him in the summer. Only the top 3 and Pool will pay his wages and I'm making a wild assumption that only Pool out of those clubs would want him. They couldn't find £5m for Dempsey so I'm not convinced they'll buy Walcott for £15m and £5m per season.

    He thinks he's worth more than he is and so do you by the sounds of it.

    He's a pretty good winger, no more than that. He's at the same kinda level as Lennon and he wont be earning anything like £75k per week.

    I understand that you don't think it's worth losing him for free for the sake of a couple of million quid per year in wages. My argument is he doesn't make the bench if we have our best 18 players available. It doesn't make sense to pay someone who doesn't make the bench, we have too many of those already! (Arsh, Chamspak etc)
    We're not going to get many good offers for him because he's in the final year of his contract. How many clubs came in for Van Persie? He was the best striker in the Prem at the time and only City, Utd and Juve were interested. Same level as Lennon? Have you checked what Lennon contributes to his club and compared that to Theo? But this doesn't boil down to money and if it were, it's illogical to let him walk on a free transfer if we're going to argue about value. Theo would still make the bench because pace is always a good option to have on the bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syn View Post
    Then he'd get it right wouldn't he you fuckface!
    It's better to burn out, than to fade away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    I don't really get your argument. If he's not good enough to get in our team then why spend £5m a year on his wages? We'd be better off letting him leave for free.

    If Rosicky and Wilshere ever get fit I don't think Walcott will make our bench.

    He's fucked.
    there's something called squad depth. every team needs it to be challenging for the top honours. a team is only as good as its bench and over the years our bench has generally been bad. this is the first year we've had some decent depth, i recall bringing ox + walcott on against stoke, giroud + walcott on against southampton. these are decent players who can change the game. walcott's a weird one because i think he's replaceable but at the same time, we keep banging on about never having squad depth yet we still want certain players out. lets not forget our team usually falls apart at the end of every season so i think its wise to keep our numbers up for when the inevitable injuries and fatigue kick in.

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