What now for Walcott?

[gooners]

None of us here deal with player contracts but I'd imagine it's a little more complicated than just agreeing a wage and then getting on with it. If you're buying a house, it doesn't just stop at agreeing a price and then moving in. Employment contracts, if they've got some bullshit dismissal and discipline procedure, you're going to question it. If you were told they had a pension scheme or some sort of private healthcare scheme, which were part of the perks discussed in your interview, but there is no mention of it in your contract, you're not going to sign.

I work with contracts, legal teams and sales team. Once a deal is agreed between the sales and acquisitions people, it's over to the lawyers to thrash out the terms, which can sometimes take ages to agree on. With football and these multi million pound contracts, I can't imagine the process being much easier, especially when we factor in performance based perks, image rights and that sort of stuff. We don't know whose holding up what in such cases and it could be a situation where both parties agreed to something with his last contract but now the terms have changed and people want answers. Who knows…heck his last deal took 6 months to sort. If the hold up is money, whose to say the club don't want a bigger slice of his image rights and sponsorship money? There are a load of possibilities when it comes to these sort of things that we won't be aware of.

:goodpost:

but why think of all of that when you can just be an armchair critic and slate players for the sake of it?

you know what, if i have to ever look for a job i will just take my employer's word for it that 'he will pay me regularly' (or vaguely that 'i'll be doing paperwork') without any mention of it in my contract --- a very good idea?

It is also very very possible that, theo wants his striker role clearly inked in the contract. I would demand it.

But it is just about money, you know.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Arsenal winger Theo Walcott has been urged to sign a new contract – and this time it’s not boss Arsene Wenger offering a pay rise or promising to play him as a striker, but fans who have released a song begging him to 'Sign Da Ting’.

The Roxy Arms are a group of Arsenal supporters who have decided to go the extra mile to see if they can be the ones to persuade the unhappy 23-year-old to extend his contract at the Emirates.

Walcott's deal expires in the summer, but the group are hopeful their full-length grime track will persuade the wannabe striker to re-sign with the club.

Some choice lyrics compare Walcott to Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as well as urging Walcott not to follow in the footsteps of his good friend and former Arsenal team-mate Robin van Persie, who left for Manchester United in the summer.

Metro Sport remain unconvinced it will catch on as the latest terrace chant, but there could be an outing over the Emirates PA system as Walcott carries out his half-time warm-up, which may do the trick.

Here are the lyrics to 'Sign Da Ting' - they have to be read to be believed...

INTRO

Come on mate, Time is ticking. Last year of the contract, Still not signed it. What’s going on, man? Spill the beans.

CHORUS

Walcott, Walcott, Walcott, Walcott,
Sign da ting, sign da ting.
(Repeat four times)

VERSE 1

Oi Theo, stick to the wing.
Playing up front just ain’t your thing.
Apart from your pace what else are you offering?
Now we got Oxlade-Chamberlain.
In your spot, technique he brings, that’s why the fans his name we sing.
Should be you but it’s not its him. We ain’t playing you until you sign da ting.

PRE-CHORUS

Sign da ting na, sign da ting. Theo Walcott, sign da ting.
If you don’t, well, then you’re stuck on the bench, listening to Frimpong chat about Dench.
We got Podolski, we got Giroud, even Gervinho’s been up front too.
That ain’t to say that they’re better than you, but you got a year left, so what you gonna do then?

CHORUS

VERSE 2

You’ll never get more love than from the Gunners.
Think about that before you do a runner.
If you stay I’ll be happy, in fact delighted.
If you go I hope you don’t go to Man United
Are you gonna be just like the rest, just take the money, forget the crest.
The big fat cannon upon your chest. Because that’s what makes you play your best.

PRE-CHORUS

CHORUS

VERSE THREE

So Theo, what’s it gonna be?
When you look into the mirror. What do you see?
Do you wanna be a part of history, or are you gonna be like Van Persie?
The little boy inside him saying join me! It’s been a long time since you won a trophy.
And that was for being a young personality. Given to you by the BBC.

PRE-CHORUS

CHORUS

OUTRO

Sign da ting, sign da ting.
Walcott, Walcott, Walcott, Walcott,
Walcott, Walcott, Walcott, Walcott,
Sign da ting, sign da ting

Read more: http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/oddball...#ixzz28BciMXuj

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Sign da ting na, sign da ting. Theo Walcott, sign da ting.
If you don’t, well, then you’re stuck on the bench, listening to Frimpong chat about Dench.
We got Podolski, we got Giroud, even Gervinho’s been up front too.
That ain’t to say that they’re better than you, but you got a year left, so what you gonna do then?

[Penguin]

Forget the negotiations. Block his agent's number, leave him in the reserves and offload him in january.

He's not worth the time.

[Xhaka Can’t]

A bit harsh, but I understand the frustration.

My view is that I would like to see a resolution, but if it is not achieved by Jan 1, then he needs to be shown the door at that point and without delay.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Agree with GB, By Jan the 1st he could sign a pre contract with any club he wanted. So we'd have to act fast with him tbh.

[Joker]

None of us here deal with player contracts but I'd imagine it's a little more complicated than just agreeing a wage and then getting on with it. If you're buying a house, it doesn't just stop at agreeing a price and then moving in. Employment contracts, if they've got some bullshit dismissal and discipline procedure, you're going to question it. If you were told they had a pension scheme or some sort of private healthcare scheme, which were part of the perks discussed in your interview, but there is no mention of it in your contract, you're not going to sign.

I work with contracts, legal teams and sales team. Once a deal is agreed between the sales and acquisitions people, it's over to the lawyers to thrash out the terms, which can sometimes take ages to agree on. With football and these multi million pound contracts, I can't imagine the process being much easier, especially when we factor in performance based perks, image rights and that sort of stuff. We don't know whose holding up what in such cases and it could be a situation where both parties agreed to something with his last contract but now the terms have changed and people want answers. Who knows…heck his last deal took 6 months to sort. If the hold up is money, whose to say the club don't want a bigger slice of his image rights and sponsorship money? There are a load of possibilities when it comes to these sort of things that we won't be aware of.

There's always a tendency to focus on player greed whenever a contract takes time to sign, yet very little consideration is given to the possibility that it is the club that is being greedy, trying to undercut wages as far as possible or reneging on a verbal agreement. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened, Song was promised that a new contract would be discussed but it was put further and further back. I tend to have less faith in the goodwill of employers compared to workers. You see it in all industries where the bosses use propaganda to demonise workers and sway popular opinion against them. Something similar is happening at Arsenal IMO, especially with the leaks by club insiders to Kroenke sympathetisers like Arseblog.

[V-Pig]

There's always a tendency to focus on player greed whenever a contract takes time to sign, yet very little consideration is given to the possibility that it is the club that is being greedy, trying to undercut wages as far as possible or reneging on a verbal agreement. It wouldn't be the first time this has happened, Song was promised that a new contract would be discussed but it was put further and further back. I tend to have less faith in the goodwill of employers compared to workers. You see it in all industries where the bosses use propaganda to demonise workers and sway popular opinion against them. Something similar is happening at Arsenal IMO, especially with the leaks by club insiders to Kroenke sympathetisers like Arseblog.

They're not starving Northern miners! They're exceedingly wealthy millionaires who have PR armies at their disposal and can and do manipulate fans as much as they want as well as the clubs do. And you're allegedly a supporter of the employers in this case.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I doubt he is a supporter of the board.

I sure as he'll don't support them.

[fakeyank]

Need to sign him up asap!