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    I'm sick and tired of this debate about money. This is simple. Why can't we afford to give Nasri a new contract when we've just sold Clichy and giving Gibbs a chance in the first team?

    We're selling Denilson and Bendy. That should free up around 90k - 100k. So why can't we afford to bump his wages up?

    If money was such an issue, then how comes Wenger can tell the board that we're nit selling Nasri and we'll risk losing him on a free? Does that make any sense especially since we're supposed to be struggling financially? Why haven't we sold Cesc yet?

    Fans are making up reasons and excuses for this club. The type of the excuse the club itself won't even use. It's embarrassing. Back in the Highbury days, stories about our bad sponsorship deals with people like Nike were supposed to be part of the reason why we couldn't compete with the big boys. It may be true, but the same story is floating around now and it seems like this move to the Emirates has been in vain or someone is leaking some serious bullshit to the fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I'm sick and tired of this debate about money. This is simple. Why can't we afford to give Nasri a new contract when we've just sold Clichy and giving Gibbs a chance in the first team?

    We're selling Denilson and Bendy. That should free up around 90k - 100k. So why can't we afford to bump his wages up?

    If money was such an issue, then how comes Wenger can tell the board that we're nit selling Nasri and we'll risk losing him on a free? Does that make any sense especially since we're supposed to be struggling financially? Why haven't we sold Cesc yet?

    Fans are making up reasons and excuses for this club. The type of the excuse the club itself won't even use. It's embarrassing. Back in the Highbury days, stories about our bad sponsorship deals with people like Nike were supposed to be part of the reason why we couldn't compete with the big boys. It may be true, but the same story is floating around now and it seems like this move to the Emirates has been in vain or someone is leaking some serious bullshit to the fans.
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    We lack money to compete at the top level for the 40M+ players but nobody (or very few) are asking for that.

    The way the club is run is a joke at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I'm sick and tired of this debate about money. This is simple. Why can't we afford to give Nasri a new contract when we've just sold Clichy and giving Gibbs a chance in the first team?

    We're selling Denilson and Bendy. That should free up around 90k - 100k. So why can't we afford to bump his wages up?

    If money was such an issue, then how comes Wenger can tell the board that we're nit selling Nasri and we'll risk losing him on a free? Does that make any sense especially since we're supposed to be struggling financially? Why haven't we sold Cesc yet?

    Fans are making up reasons and excuses for this club. The type of the excuse the club itself won't even use. It's embarrassing. Back in the Highbury days, stories about our bad sponsorship deals with people like Nike were supposed to be part of the reason why we couldn't compete with the big boys. It may be true, but the same story is floating around now and it seems like this move to the Emirates has been in vain or someone is leaking some serious bullshit to the fans.
    That's assuming the reasons for Nasri not signing a new contract are purely monetary. Do we know this to be the case?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketsi View Post
    That's assuming the reasons for Nasri not signing a new contract are purely monetary. Do we know this to be the case?
    There's one of two cases re: Nasri:

    1) It's about the (supposedly) desired extra 20k per week. Roughly a million extra a year. If Wenger looked at it financially, surely getting him to sign on for the low risk of 1M (assuming he doesn't completely tank next season) would be worth it as he'd either become a better player with us or be sold at the same price next year.

    2) It's about wanting to be part of a team that can challenge, which speaks to the success of Wenger's projects when one of his most talented players wants to leave, his striker has asked for 'star' signings, the longest serving youth player has moved to the football project at Citeh and the captain desperately wants to get out. It'll continue unless he changes his policy.

    Either way the club is fucking up with this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory View Post
    I'm sick and tired of this debate about money. This is simple. Why can't we afford to give Nasri a new contract when we've just sold Clichy and giving Gibbs a chance in the first team?

    We're selling Denilson and Bendy. That should free up around 90k - 100k. So why can't we afford to bump his wages up?

    If money was such an issue, then how comes Wenger can tell the board that we're nit selling Nasri and we'll risk losing him on a free? Does that make any sense especially since we're supposed to be struggling financially? Why haven't we sold Cesc yet?

    Fans are making up reasons and excuses for this club. The type of the excuse the club itself won't even use. It's embarrassing. Back in the Highbury days, stories about our bad sponsorship deals with people like Nike were supposed to be part of the reason why we couldn't compete with the big boys. It may be true, but the same story is floating around now and it seems like this move to the Emirates has been in vain or someone is leaking some serious bullshit to the fans.


    This.

    If we were that financially strapped we wouldn't hold onto Cesc or potentially risk losing Nasri for free.

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    I believe what i see.

    Wenger has lost it

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post


    This.

    If we were that financially strapped we wouldn't hold onto Cesc or potentially risk losing Nasri for free.
    Exactly. It also demonstrates the amount of power Wenger has at this club. He's come out and said that he's not selling Nasri, it's a technical decision and the board are okay with it. I've heard people suggest we've sold players against Wenger's will or he's powerless to change things but this story suggests otherwise.

    He's a man of principles and he himself doesn't want to break the wage structure. Listen to him talk about Man City and respecting rules. Look how stubborn the guy is. He could convince the board that Nasri is worth the wages, but he's not going to.

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    The fact that we're trying to keep Cesc and Nasri doesn't tell us anything other than we don't want to give out a message that we're in decline. Isn't Nasri's contentions about his wages the major stumbling block? Whilst any of our main rivals can easily gazump the wages we're offering. We seem to be trapped in this rigid system where our financial perils dictate how much the manager can spend of transfers AND wages.
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    So we move to the new stadium for what? We are not competitive, we are broke.. might as well have stayed at Highbury. However I do not think we are broke. We have a decent amount of money but AW is a massive cock and wont spend the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirjackofwilshere View Post
    The fact that we're trying to keep Cesc and Nasri doesn't tell us anything other than we don't want to give out a message that we're in decline. Isn't Nasri's contentions about his wages the major stumbling block? Whilst any of our main rivals can easily gazump the wages we're offering. We seem to be trapped in this rigid system where our financial perils dictate how much the manager can spend of transfers AND wages.
    We just got rid of Clichy. We have £7m in the bank and he's off the wage bill. Why not use that cash to give him a wage increase? We're not replacing Clichy, plus we have Denilson and Bendy on their way out. We can't use financial restrictions as an excuse on this one. This is self imposed. Next year, Rosicky will be out of contract, so will Arshavin and it's unlikey we'll be replacing them either. For a fraction of what their worth we can easily afford to give our top players a top up.

    We just signed three youth players. For what purpose? How much are they on and why is that we can find the money to pay and educate players that won't have an impact on our season? They probably won't even make it into the first team. Look what happenend with Nordveit and Merida. We sign them up, pay their wages and then sell them off for peanuts. How much are those guys on? How comes guys like JET can afford a car that's worth £300k to write off? Total nonsense. If we're paying these guys £10k - £30k a week but we're not willing to give our top players a wage increase that's at least competitive, then we have complete idiots running this club. From the manager to board room. We pay our kids more than any other club and that's why these little shits jump at the chance to join us. How backwards is that. We throw the money at unproven talent but penny pinch when it comes to the stars.

    These restrictions are self imposed. I thought Rafa was talking rubbish when he said Liverpool couldn't afford to pay players the sort of money Arsenal pay. But then I realised he was talking about our youth/reserve players not the first team. Please, no more talk of financial restrictions and us being broke. It's as annoying as hearing a guy talk about not being able to afford rent but the son of bitch can afford to kit his house out with the latest gadgets and toys. The priorities of this club are back to front, inside out and all fucked up. When you take all the above into consideration, there is no way we talk about not being able to pay a player and extra £30k - £50k a month. We just don't want to.

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