You're a joke.
3 goals (well, 2 goals) and he sets up Giroud and Kos' goal. Most people can recognise it was a man of the match peformances from him and I'm not denying the contribution of the other players because they played well too. But you should at least give credit where it's due.
You're basing your analysis on a freak match and using it to justify a long standing argument that holds no water based on the evidence. Even so and taking the carefully limited scope of your argument, you defeat it yourself. You have already said Coquelin and Frimpong were a joke last night and they were. But when Eisfeld and Giroud came on they created the environment for Walcott to prosper. These were the pair who swung the match, not Theo Walcott.Originally Posted by Power_n_Glory
3 goals (well, 2 goals) and he sets up Giroud and Kos' goal. Most people can recognise it was a man of the match peformances from him and I'm not denying the contribution of the other players because they played well too. But you should at least give credit where it's due.
As I said, Walcott doesn't have that capability himself. He's had his FEW moments, there's potential there for sure. A hat-trick vs Croatia, one decent half for England more recently with nothing in the intervening years. Half the time anonymous for us and even in his good games he's atrocious for 50% of them, giving the ball away, making blind runs. You see the good stuff and ignore the bad. Then you say give him the money, let him dictate. That's your opinion, that's fine. I say he's not half the player you make him out to be and the evidence of years bears that out. And I say let him put in plenty more decent performances on a regular basis and then we'll see about the money.
He's either with us or he's somewhere else. Right now he's saying if he gets his way he'll stay. I don't care if he's scoring goals against Reading in the Mickey Mouse Cup. I care if he's going to be around delivering consistent performances. Playing where he's told to play and putting in a 100% shift each game. If we're going to let Walcott dictate then why not every other player? What makes Walcott so special? Goals in the Carling Cup? So Chamakh scored too, lets have him in to decide where he wants to play and how much we need to pay him. Let's do it for all of them and see where that gets us.
You have 100% support for a player that has at best lukewarm support for us. I don't. Made that mistake with RvC, won't be making it again. It's about the team, we win fuck all ever if we don't have a unified team that puts the team first. Plenty of other players out there who would be happy to be here and could put in a much more consistent showing then Walcott. Why we should be expected to bow to him I have no idea. Should be the other way around, he should be kissing our arse. Let me know when he's committed to the club again and I'll reciprocate. Until then don't bore me with this Theo worship.
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It was a captain's performance from him last night. Needs to start games now as he's the only player we have with pace other than Chamberlain who's far too inconsistent to start for us.
Pretty much, unless we beat Utd 9:8 on Saturday!
About Walcott. . .I have not been his greatest fan and I dont believe he has justified the kind of salary demands he is making but if. . .I mean if, he can play himself into being offered a contract between now and January, I would welcome the guy.
Two problems stand in the way;
1) can he do,it consistently enough
2) is Wenger going to set a formation that plays to his strengths
Answer. . .sadly I dont think so
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Rubbish as usual. All this talk about the Board raping the club and stripping assets and you can't see the value in a player that scored and got assists for us in a cup competition as well as the goals and assists he got for us last season and the season before that. It's not an isolated and let's not forget that we would have wouldn't have gotten all 3 points against West Ham if it wasn't for Theo. Of course, he needs service, but so does Giroud, so does Podolski, Cazorla can't dictate a game on his own and even the shittest of keepers need protection from the defence. As I've said before, Theo could play a blinder and you'd still be carrying on like an idiot and slating him. That's not supporting the squad and I can't take your views seriously. You make some good points about the Board, but when some is being so willfully ignorant....there is almost no point in discussing this issue. Of course Theo has flaws to his game but I'm hardly going to lay into him after that sort of performance.
As for writing it off because it's the Capital One Cup...it's a bit rich coming from fans that constantly bemoan our lack of silverware. It's not the biggest cup, but it can act as a springboard for something bigger. Besides that, the last thing I want to see is my team embarrassed like we almost were last night. It would have been as bad as the final lose against Birmingham. If we'd have lost the game, you'd have talked about us having no heart and passion, yet we win and stage one of the greatest comebacks in football, yet you're still bitching.
You're bitter over the RVP situation and if you had any sense, you'd see that he left because the Board lack ambition and are quite happy to settle for 4th each year whilst selling off key players every year. You know that they're penny pinching and pretty inept at dealing with contracts so I don't get where you're coming from. Of course I support the playing staff because they're the ones I pay to watch and win games. Like it or not, Theo contributed to our win, it's that simple and only fool would argue otherwise.
You talk about us not being held ransom to player demands, but it's not about being held to ransom, it's about the club seeing some sense and doing more to hold on to key players. They've profited financially over the years, all of them, but at the same time have tried to keep the playing staff costs as low as possible so they can pocket the difference. You argue against such a policy but your stance on certain players advocates it. Why should the players accept the below standard that isn't in line with their peers? We'll hit the same brick wall with future key players every time and that's what I'm against because I've seen it happen several times over the years. The wage structure doesn't work and it's imbalanced. I've been pretty consistent with that view.
I don't have 100% support for a player, I have 100% support for the team and you writing off Theo's performance after battling back is baffling and the opposite of support. Have a word with yourself. That was a unified performance last night. It was a shambles in the first half but everyone was in on the celebrations. The team were happy to see Chamakh break his duck, happy to see Giroud make an impact and we at least restored some pride which could have been a bloody embarrassing evening. I had a Man Utd fan on the phone that couldn't shut the fuck up but was silent as soon as we came back. Celebrate that at least and quit acting so stupid. Theo had a hand in most of the goals and rightly won man of the match.
I thought Walcott played pretty well last night, some good goals and some excellent runs, got to give credit where credits due he put in a really good performance when we needed it, he wasn't the only one of course but having got the goals he will obviously get more of the plaudits.
The defence however, that was pretty dire.
Hey! You two, get a fucking room ffs.
We had a defence?
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Thats enough about Zimm and LDG, what about NQ and PNG.
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