When's the last time you've been this pessimistic before a game?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Wenger doesn't believe in captains, we haven't had a decent on since Vieira to be honest.

Their performances on the pitch when it really matters, the way they disappear when the going gets tough, no stomach for the fight? When do you see our players closing down teams, chasing every ball and making the opposition work hard just to keep hold of the ball?

Clearly Rubbish as Cesc and RVP were excellent. And led the team and motivated them well.