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    The concept of a captain in football is massively overrated anyway. In rugby a captain has a purpose in organising scrums and lineouts and such. What does he do in football? Call the coin toss? Big whoop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    i disagree with this. we have some too, apparently santi was in bits after the loss to norwich. but do you think superstars like hazard at chelsea or aguero at city give a shit about losing?

    very few players will care, with us, i can think of a few, arteta, jenkinson, jack with city, united, chelsea it will be jsut the same, one or two.
    I'm really not convinced, players who really care show real annoyance when they lose, they don't hang around and have a laugh with their mates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Cesc wasn't a good captain. He was weak and could rarely lift the team when things went wrong.

    RVC was good but he would have still carried us armband or not.
    Totally agree.

    A good captain, holds the team together when things are tough, leads by example and gets players going when they're not performing or giving 100%. The importance of a good captain can not be understated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I'm really not convinced, players who really care show real annoyance when they lose, they don't hang around and have a laugh with their mates.
    true but we all show annoyance in different ways. some people will laugh at the time, go home and be annoyed there. some will be annoyed on the pitch etc etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    true but we all show annoyance in different ways. some people will laugh at the time, go home and be annoyed there. some will be annoyed on the pitch etc etc
    I don't know anyone who shows their annoyance but smiling and laughing tbh.

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    I haven't been optimistic before any game for about 2yrs. Against the big boys it's a case of praying for a miracle.

    This team is a million miles away from Chavs/City/Manure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grebbo View Post
    This team is a million miles away from Chavs/City/Manure
    That's very optimistic tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I'm really not convinced, players who really care show real annoyance when they lose, they don't hang around and have a laugh with their mates.
    Who cares if they don't look pissed after the whistle goes. So what if they talk to their mates after the game. If they just cause a player don't look upset don't mean he is not. Not everyone shows it. You have no idea what goes on when they go in the dressing room.

    End of the day Football has changed, players have changed. The way players greet each other in the tunnel before a game and have jokes. You never saw that in the old days. When we used to play the manc, we saw the players at it before they went on the field. now its all hugs and kisses.
    Last edited by Olivier's xmas twist; 02-11-2012 at 09:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grimandi's Perm View Post
    The concept of a captain in football is massively overrated anyway. In rugby a captain has a purpose in organising scrums and lineouts and such. What does he do in football? Call the coin toss? Big whoop.


    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    i disagree with this. we have some too, apparently santi was in bits after the loss to norwich. but do you think superstars like hazard at chelsea or aguero at city give a shit about losing?

    very few players will care, with us, i can think of a few, arteta, jenkinson, jack with city, united, chelsea it will be jsut the same, one or two.
    Pretty much, like most players these days, might care for an hour then you'll see then in the clubs laughing it off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Cesc wasn't a good captain. He was weak and could rarely lift the team when things went wrong.

    RVC was good but he would have still carried us armband or not.
    Well he was not a Terry or a Keane or a PV4. But with the players he had to work with he did fine.

    Vieira was a great captain and let by example, but with him he had leaders on the pitch, he had winners, who knew how to win, so its easy to motivate a team like that.

    Cesc was pretty much running the show and at a young age too.

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    every week tbh

    with this pile of shit you never know how low they will stoop once they step foot on that pitch

    in terms of tomorrow, it'll be the same tactics fergie has been using for years; overload central midfield to stop our creativity then use wide men to hit our full backs.

    works every time.

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