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Thread: If they stayed....(Nasri & Fabregas)?

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    Ah yes, the old players leaving us don't do well notion.

    Well, we don't fare too greatly after they leave as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Ah yes, the old players leaving us don't do well notion.

    Well, we don't fare too greatly after they leave as well.
    Well these days its hard to do worse when they leave 10 years ago it would be diffrent

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Cuntley Hole
    Henry

    Think that's about it.
    Anelka??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toronto Gooner View Post
    Unlike Nasri, Rooney has actually put in more than 4 months of good and impressive performances.
    Nonsense, if he only had 4 good months with us than he wouldnt have been offered an extension before last season. He has been inconsistent at times but those having a dig about 4 months of playing well are only doing so because the player wants to leave the club to go elsewhere.

    Nasri wasnt the only one last season who went off the boil...Wilshere, Cesc, Song etc...all did. This is not an individual problem its a Managment issue. WEnger is a poor with player management. He cannot keep his players focused and he lets them get away with the same shite over and over again. But some fans are failing to acknowlege this and would rather point the finger at individual players rather than get to the real source of the problem.


    Nasri has even said himself that its about trophies, not money. Most of the BS being spouted is due to those people buying into the inaccurate media speculation. But again people want to have a go at him because he wants to leave to a club with greater sporting ambition. Cesc is getting the same treatment from the fans as well for wanting to go, next will be RVP when he doesnt want to commit his future then it will be Theo. TH14 and Freddie even wanted to see more ambition from the club and even they were singled out way back when for saying so.

    Get rid of the manager and I truly believe you will see happier players, a change in effort and a change in the mental focus we need. Its all there to see cleary whats going on but I think some fans cannot come to terms that maybe Wenger (or the board) have failed in what they set out to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LDG View Post
    Cuntley Hole
    Henry

    Think that's about it.
    What about Vieira, 4 Italian titles, 2 Italian cups, 1 CL, 1 FA Cup and a world cup final.

    Not too bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Ah yes, the old players leaving us don't do well notion.

    Well, we don't fare too greatly after they leave as well.
    There's been some classics tbh:

    The "Wenger smokescreen"
    The "we make stars we don't buy them"
    The "if Wenger is after them everyone else buys them" scenario
    The "we've got no money" scenario
    The "world is against us" scenario.

    All used to explain Wenger's, weird and wonderful ways in the last 6 years.

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    Vieira's Italian trophies are tainted by the fact Juve were relegated, AC Milan were penalised and Inter won by default.

    But with Chelsea/Citeh etc. buying their way to glory, I suppose there's no honour in football anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Vieira's Italian trophies are tainted by the fact Juve were relegated, AC Milan were penalised and Inter won by default.

    But with Chelsea/Citeh etc. buying their way to glory, I suppose there's no honour in football anyway.
    That was just one title though, the 1st one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    That was just one title though, the 1st one.
    Yes, but the big clubs were not on a level to challenge Inter for years after that.

    And he wasn't exactly a big part of the CL triumph, he was already at City.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Splinter View Post
    Yes, but the big clubs were not on a level to challenge Inter for years after that.

    And he wasn't exactly a big part of the CL triumph, he was already at City.
    True but he did have success when he left, he was still quite a player when France made it to the final...seem to have rolled back the years in that campaign.

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