Have we learnt anything from the ManYoo game?

[Niall_Quinn]

We learned some of us have been unfair to Chamakh. Criticised as the worst player of all time it's now clear he's only the second worst. Santos is, of course, the very worst player in the history of football. Another thing yesterday taught us is that Santos should be kicked out of this club at the earliest opportunity. Certainly he should never play for us again.

Suspect well see him in Germany this week then. It's a fucking scandal. And to think there was a time when we thought Clichy wasn't good enough. Just look how far we've collapsed since the days of Ashley Cole and Nigel Winterburn.

We also learned its never to soon to take a hit out on **** yanks who come over here to pillage our footie clubs.

[Ernesto]

We, as fans, have learnt a lot.

Whether the board, manager and team have learnt anything is a different matter altogether.

Couple of things to take away from the game yesterday, van Persie was very gracious to all things Arsenal post-match, which was commendable. Even complimented the fans, in spite of some sick chants emanating from the away end. That post-match interview perhaps would've taken a whole different complexion has Arsenal taken a positive result away from Old Swamp, but it was refreshing to hear his thoughts nevertheless.

Also, and more importantly, if Manchester United are clearly a side who pride themselves on dispossessing the opposition, and panic without the ball, and we are one of the best (if not the best) "ball-keepers" in the league, then why are we losing such games? We do well against Manchester City, who are a better side, yet we're faced with crap like yesterday against an inferior side. Doesn't make an iota of sense.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We learned some of us have been unfair to Chamakh. Criticised as the worst player of all time it's now clear he's only the second worst. Santos is, of course, the very worst player in the history of football. Another thing yesterday taught us is that Santos should be kicked out of this club at the earliest opportunity. Certainly he should never play for us again.

Suspect well see him in Germany this week then. It's a fucking scandal. And to think there was a time when we thought Clichy wasn't good enough. Just look how far we've collapsed since the days of Ashley Cole and Nigel Winterburn.

We also learned its never to soon to take a hit out on **** yanks who come over here to pillage our footie clubs.

Problen with Santo's he is better of in LM not LB and never has been. He has pace and power to break into the box, he is just not a good defender like most Brazilians.

[Niall_Quinn]

Problen with Santo's he is better of in LM not LB and never has been. He has pace and power to break into the box, he is just not a good defender like most Brazilians.

Yep, true, plus he's a complete **** who should be kicked out of the club after his last batch of performances.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Yep, true, plus he's a complete **** who should be kicked out of the club after his last batch of performances.

I agree.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

We, as fans, have learnt a lot.

Whether the board, manager and team have learnt anything is a different matter altogether.

Couple of things to take away from the game yesterday, van Persie was very gracious to all things Arsenal post-match, which was commendable. Even complimented the fans, in spite of some sick chants emanating from the away end. That post-match interview perhaps would've taken a whole different complexion has Arsenal taken a positive result away from Old Swamp, but it was refreshing to hear his thoughts nevertheless.

Also, and more importantly, if Manchester United are clearly a side who pride themselves on dispossessing the opposition, and panic without the ball, and we are one of the best (if not the best) "ball-keepers" in the league, then why are we losing such games? We do well against Manchester City, who are a better side, yet we're faced with crap like yesterday against an inferior side. Doesn't make an iota of sense.

Fergie will always know how to beat us were so predictable. City, Think its fair to say there is so much pressure on them to defend the title that mistakes are creeping in.

And i think at City, we had a stronger line up bar Gev. Once that line up goes, were fucked. Had we had Gibbs, Fit Diaby, maybe ox, then yesterday becomes a diffrent game.

Fit Diaby, does well for us in midfield. Gibbs won't do a santo's and Ox gives us something diffrent on the wing.

[Cripps_orig]

Didnt learn anything we didnt know before the game

We all knew we'd lose. We did

We all knew we'd be outplayed. We were

We all knew we'd have some possession and do f all with it. We did

It was a horrific starting line up. More down to the inclusion of 2 players than the actual team and that wasnt helped by our captain doing a Kos impression 3 minutes in.

We all knew 4-3-3 has been an utter failure

For once, i would love to watch an Arsenal game where we see something different in terms of formation and tactics

[Marc Overmars]

Yeah, I learnt we were even more spineless than I thought we were.

I was hoping for a surprise because the feeling was almost unanimous that we wouldn't turn up, so maybe just this one time we'd prove the doubters wrong.

Of course everything went according to the script and United picked up their routine 3 points against us, which even left their manager disappointed because he didn't batter us. Shows how little they think of us now.

[Cripps_orig]

I read the Manc post match interviews and Fergie and Rio both saying how it all felt a little flat.

They see us as nothing more than a Stoke or a Charlton these days and so they should

[jelgoon]

Yeh right. Best right back at the club maybe.Mertersacker is ok - nothing that specail as you will see in the CL when he gets torn apart by classy forwards

Pretty much, he is awesome. Sagna was a beast too. Showed why he is the best RB in the world.