whilst i blame the manager for the malaise we have fallen into, i think it is a bit of a cop out to take the blame away from the players, especially those guilty of basic mistakes not associated with any style instructed in training.
whilst i blame the manager for the malaise we have fallen into, i think it is a bit of a cop out to take the blame away from the players, especially those guilty of basic mistakes not associated with any style instructed in training.
Agree with this.Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
I agree with you to an extent, but the malaise and the repetition of errors pre-date the arrival of every player on the team. We have a cultural and tactical problem at the club and it is Wenger who is responsible for this.
i'd go with that in the main but when you see our captain passing the ball to one of the worlds best strikers and already putting us out of a very tough game, i'd struggle to associate that to training. mental focus and a determination to be ready for action should be driven by the manager so that is wenger's and the coaches fault we have too many slip ups, but there are some basics that players need to take a good look at themselves.
i mean even if you believe your manager is a knobhead who will never improve your ability, then you should be thinking about the long term damage happening to your reputation by not trying to fix some of these issues yourself. a manager takes ultimate responsibility but you do have to man up at times and realise your part in it all.
A man who acts as a comfort blanket and doesn't distance himself from his players, is going to lose players.
It's like a school teacher. There was:
i) Mr Nice - Who had a good heart, but no balls and lost the classroom to bullies and people who threw things at him
ii) Mr Friend - Who tried to be everyones mate, had the backs of the people who wanted to learn, but lost the tearaways and bullies because they didn't feel wated
iii) Mr **** - The teacher that hated kids, was bitter at being made to do a job he didn't want to do, and took it out on the classroom. Lost the classroom, because he didn't get people tow WANT to learn
iv) Mr Boring - The painfully slow lessons, by an unenthusiastic geek, who lost the classroom because, for kids, it was worse than poking your eyes out
v) Mr Manager - The man who is able to handle everyone on an individual basis, the man who can handle a group, be sympathetic, yet stern, respected, but loved, distant, but close when needed.
Wenger is a mixture of i) to iv)
Fergie is v)
Lunatic!
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
Hasn't Wenger always been like that though?
No, I don't think so.
Before he had an idea people believed in. Now he doesn't.
If most fans, pundits, players and even women (yes, even women) can see where he has fucked up, it shows he has clearly lost the classroom.
It's better to burn out, than to fade away.
I don't think he's changed that much. Football has changed a lot though.
He came in and brought in fitness regimes in an era when most other clubs' players still went on the piss after games. Now all clubs' players have the same fitness levels
He brought in players from leagues which most other clubs barely knew about. Now all top clubs have worldwide scouting networks and continental managers who know the global game.
He started in an era where £2m could buy you a top player and you didn't have billionaire owners inflating the wages and transfer fees to obscene levels.
Football has moved on. He hasn't.
He's not a bumbling idiot ™. His ability to get us finishing top 4 every year shouldn't be dismissed.
But some of the things he's doing right now make your head spin and if he is losing the dressing room (I suspected he was at times last year) then he needs to go.
The soon to be Mrs. LDG has changed you man.
3 at the moment Diaby, Rosicky and Gibbs.
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