as that is the very first concern from todays game? the defence has been average for years, as have arsenal. does that mean we just take it for granted, no need for debate there either?Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn
as that is the very first concern from todays game? the defence has been average for years, as have arsenal. does that mean we just take it for granted, no need for debate there either?
It's not just today's game though is it? It's 7 years of this sh*t, these comments aren't simply about today it's the general feeling about this team/squad/club.
All these little things add up to making us a nothing team with no hope of any success, you don't win anything with a sh*te defence and neither do you win anything with shrinking violets who run away at the mere sign of trouble.
You want leaders, players with self belief not players who have a "not sure if they I'm up to it today, maybe next time" attitude.
they are about today, you were talking about giroud?
anyway, as someone else said, its all part of the wengbot way. arteta takes them, if not cazorla. but i suppose giroud should've shoved him to the ground and started a ruck to show his passion for scoring a third.
If you're on a hattrick noone is going to argue to be honest.
sure. that's how it works with wenger.
IMO in the old days the players did the thinking on their feet, they decided what happened on the pitch....those were the days when we were successful, a team of generals who didn't shy away.
Now they are all sheep who follow everything by the letter with no personnality, opinion or character....we did have one player with character but he left last summer after realising Wenger is clueless.
With players like this you're on a path to nowhere because when things are tough in the business end of competitions they won't deliver under the pressure.
OMG there is so much garbage in this thread.
christ i cant believe that the best player on the field today is getting blasted like this. Giroud is a bottler for not even taking a shot? thats one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. going by this logic why would you want the bottler to take the shot when he has no bottle anyway
there is sooo much more to talk about than who took the penalty. Arteta is a senior player in the team and is known to take set pieces we dont know the pecking order as for as penalties so people need to stop with the ridiculous insults.
i would love to hear what Wenger says about today. ive got a hunch that he is going to mention the midweek champions league match as to why we let a 2 goal lead slip yet again. Everton looked the business again today with an arguably weaker side, we need to focus on why Wenger cannot get better results with a better side.
You know my feelings on this. There should be a fucking great broom taken to the whole place, a clean out from top to bottom. Anybody who isn't in this 100% for the club and can appreciate if they get that bit right then the glory follows by default should be fucked out the door. Who isn't sick of all these ****s spouting their bullshit throughout the week only to fall flat on their faces come the weekend? And they want five, six figures a fucking match for this shit. They can fuck off. But this is just the standard, everyday, ongoing problem at the club. This is normal at Arsenal. So I look for those moments of inspiration instead, even if it's a fucking stupid and humiliating comeback against dogshit Reading. It still gets you out of your seat, you still get a little bit back. I would have loved to hear about a Giroud hat trick today. It would have been something to talk about rather than the usual shit. I'm not excusing the defence, I'm not saying anything about the defence because we all know it inside and out. Would have liked to tune in tonight for Giroud's hat trick though - but fuck that, we didn't even try. Like I said, the soul has gone, this club is just a shell game.
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