Change we need.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

This

Truth be told, i care very little in the financial aspects of the game. I care about what goes on on the pitch and that is down to Wenger and him alone.

Getting rid of him would be the first step on a long road of Gooners getting their Arsenal back

Well seen as the Board are not leaving anytime soon, Wenger has to go as one of them do. Not sure the man we will get in, but right now it can't be worse and i gets it depends where we are come the summer.

If were not in the top 4 then bringing in a Klopp or Martinez won't hurt us.

I don't even think AW will leave the club fully i think he will go upstairs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Well seen as the Board are not leaving anytime soon, Wenger has to go as one of them do. Not sure the man we will get in, but right now it can't be worse and i gets it depends where we are come the summer.

If were not in the top 4 then bringing in a Klopp or Martinez won't hurt us.

I don't even think AW will leave the club fully i think he will go upstairs.

Would be an interesting interview. The job description might put them off a bit. Hold the leaky tub together while we sell the hull from under you. And here's £7mill to keep your mouth shut.

[Cripps_orig]

Would be an interesting interview. The job description might put them off a bit. Hold the leaky tub together while we sell the hull from under you. And here's £7mill to keep your mouth shut.

Is that what you think the board is doing to Wenger?

Wenger is just as much to blame as the board if not more

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Is that what you think the board is doing to Wenger?

Wenger is just as much to blame as the board if not more

Which is why he is saying the next manager will be the same.

[Maestro]

Denver Nuggetts - NBA

"The team joined the NBA in 1976 after the ABA-NBA merger and have some periods of success, making the playoffs for nine consecutive seasons in the 1980s and doing the same for the previous nine seasons. However, it has not made an appearance in a championship round since its last year in the ABA."

Denver Avalanche - NHL

"The Avalanche have won eight division titles and they qualified for the playoffs in each of their first ten seasons in Denver; the streak ended in 2007."

St Louis Rams - NFL

"1951 – Ed Thorp Memorial Trophy (NFL championship)
1979 – George Halas Trophy (NFC champion)
1999 – George Halas Trophy (NFC champion)
1999 – Vince Lombardi Trophy (Super Bowl XXXIV)
2001 – George Halas Trophy (NFC champion)"

Colarado Rapids - MSL

"Colorado won the MLS Cup for the first time in 2010. The Rapids reached the final once before, in 1997, which it lost to D.C. United; they also reached the final of the Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup in 1999."

Colarado Mammoth - NLL

"In 2004 they became the league's attendance leader, closely beating the Toronto Rock. In 2006, they again came away with the league attendance record, again beating out the Toronto Rock. 2006 was the first year in the 20-year history of the NLL that the league had an attendance of more than one million fans in one season. The Colorado Mammoth had the honor of hosting fan number one million, an honor that commissioner Jim Jennings believed to be rightfully theirs, given the impact they had on the league's attendance that year.[2] In 2008, the Mammoth average attendance per game was highest among Pepsi Center's residents, including the Colorado Avalanche (NHL), and the Denver Nuggets (NBA)."

Colarado Arsenal -BPL

......insert profile here

This Kroenke guy has interesting targets ...next up record of investment into the Kroenke Sports Enterprises, of which we are now part of.

[Xhaka Can’t]

Denver Nuggetts - NBA

Denver Avalanche - NHL

"The Avalanche have won eight division titles and they qualified for the playoffs in each of their first ten seasons in Denver; the streak ended in 2007."

They are the Colorado Avalanche based in Denver and have never ever been referred to as the 'Denver Avalanche'. He only bought into them in 2000, when they were one of the elite teams in the NHL. They won the Stanley Cup the following season, but the team gradually declined under his ownership and now have one of the lowest payrolls in the NHL and are light years away from qualifying for the play-offs. And this in a league where 16 of the 30 clubs make the post season.

Under his ownership the Avs have regressed from being in the elite to becoming also-rans with some of the lowest levels of investment in the team despite high attendances.

Luckily, there are no parallels with what we are seeing here at Arsenal.

[Maestro]

They are the Colorado Avalanche based in Denver and have never ever been referred to as the 'Denver Avalanche'. He only bought into them in 2000, when they were one of the elite teams in the NHL. They won the Stanley Cup the following season, but the team gradually declined under his ownership and now have one of the lowest payrolls in the NHL and are light years away from qualifying for the play-offs. And this in a league where 16 of the 30 clubs make the post season.

Under his ownership the Avs have regressed from being in the elite to becoming also-rans with some of the lowest levels of investment in the team despite high attendances.

Luckily, there are no parallels with what we are seeing here at Arsenal.

...sorry my typo

I know hey, they tried to build a team on the cheap with young talent at the Nuggets but that failed

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Would be an interesting interview. The job description might put them off a bit. Hold the leaky tub together while we sell the hull from under you. And here's £7mill to keep your mouth shut.

Probs give it to Bould, won't have to spend much money and he'll probs do what they say.

[She Wore A Yellow Ribbon]

and this idea that the board restricts the manager is a bit OTT.

we make out that our club isn't a dream club for a manager to work at but it is

we have:

amazing academy
low debt
passionate fans
complete autonomy when it comes to tactics and players. no owner butting in.
time. we stuck with wenger through nearly a decade of shit. a new manager would get backing of fans and time to work his magic.
a somewhat promising young squad to work with
brand new stadium
a top pay package

on top of that the only way is up. we cant get much worse than what we are now.

so the base is good. but the manager we have is flawed.

any manager coming in has a good base to work with. we just need him to come.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

and this idea that the board restricts the manager is a bit OTT.

we make out that our club isn't a dream club for a manager to work at but it is

we have:

amazing academy
low debt
passionate fans
complete autonomy when it comes to tactics and players. no owner butting in.
time. we stuck with wenger through nearly a decade of shit. a new manager would get backing of fans and time to work his magic.
a somewhat promising young squad to work with
brand new stadium
a top pay package

on top of that the only way is up. we cant get much worse than what we are now.

so the base is good. but the manager we have is flawed.

any manager coming in has a good base to work with. we just need him to come.

Don't recall anyone saying that. All people are saying is with this board a new manager will be a puppet just like the one we have now. Once you sell to someone with ambition, rather then someone who only cares about money then its a different issue.

I just can't see us getting anyone ambitious while Stan is around. I agree a new manager will change alot of things but will still be a puppet.