Match Reaction vs Fulham 10/11/12

[Cripps_orig]

So basically everyone is in agreement Wenger has not done all he can for the cause

Reason enough to get rid

[fakeyank]

It's not Wenger that's changed, it's football. And, to an extent, things at the club at board level have changed.
Fergie has adapted to the changes in football and managed to challenge the billionaires, Wenger hasn't.
Although Fergie has had more resources than Wenger to do so, Wenger has had more resources at his disposal than he's used.

I don't believe Wenger is happy with the 'crap thats being served now'. Whether he can do anything about it though...I'm not sure.
If he was a crap manager then we wouldn't keep finishing top 4 but he could certainly do with some better people around him, he does seem to have too much power at the club right now.

Its not the billionaires really.. its the fact that we look mediocre against teams like Reading, Swansea, Fulham on a consistent basis. Up until 2008 or so, we knew we'd lose against the Chelsea's and Utd's but we looked comfortable playing these mid table teams (at least at home) but even thats gone and I just cannot see how AW can be defended here.

Yes, he has kept us in the top 4 for some time but every season you know we are just getting worse and worse. Its a question of when we drop out of top 4 and not if we drop out of top 4. With the size of our club and resources available, we should be up there right after Chelsea, Utd and City but we are not. We have slipped down to the levels of Fulham, Everton and West Hams... and the worst part? Our style of play is absolutely horrible.. I can gauge my eyes out most of the games with the boring crap being served! At least up until 2008 or so, we played good football but now even thats not the case. We probably play one of the most boring styles of football in Europe!!

[Niall_Quinn]

So basically everyone is in agreement Wenger has not done all he can for the cause

Reason enough to get rid

You;re still looking at this from a football perspective which simply isn't a priority at Arsenal these days.

[Cripps_orig]

You;re still looking at this from a football perspective which simply isn't a priority at Arsenal these days.

Like i said previously, i dont give a crap about the financial side of football. I care about the on pitch stuff and Wenger has failed time and time again to do his job.

His fault we are so woeful in defence.

Can not blame the board for that

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Like i said previously, i dont give a crap about the financial side of football. I care about the on pitch stuff and Wenger has failed time and time again to do his job.

His fault we are so woeful in defence.

Can not blame the board for that

Fair enough.

Then you can't say he is at fault for how the whole club has declined. On the pitch stuff is a diffrent issue.

[Cripps_orig]

Fair enough.

Then you can't say he is at fault for how the whole club has declined. On the pitch stuff is a diffrent issue.

I dont

I critisise the board for that but Wenger plays a big part in that as well. Never let it be forgotten that he interviewed his own boss to take the job. Thats the power he has at this club and as long as that remains then we will keep on being the laughing stock of world football

[Olivier's xmas twist]

I dont

I critisise the board for that but Wenger plays a big part in that as well. Never let it be forgotten that he interviewed his own boss to take the job. Thats the power he has at this club and as long as that remains then we will keep on being the laughing stock of world football

Who Stan?

[Cripps_orig]

Who Stan?

Gazidis

[Letters]

Its not the billionaires really.. its the fact that we look mediocre against teams like Reading, Swansea, Fulham on a consistent basis. Up until 2008 or so, we knew we'd lose against the Chelsea's and Utd's but we looked comfortable playing these mid table teams (at least at home) but even thats gone and I just cannot see how AW can be defended here.

Yes, he has kept us in the top 4 for some time but every season you know we are just getting worse and worse. Its a question of when we drop out of top 4 and not if we drop out of top 4. With the size of our club and resources available, we should be up there right after Chelsea, Utd and City but we are not. We have slipped down to the levels of Fulham, Everton and West Hams... and the worst part? Our style of play is absolutely horrible.. I can gauge my eyes out most of the games with the boring crap being served! At least up until 2008 or so, we played good football but now even thats not the case. We probably play one of the most boring styles of football in Europe!!

I agree with a fair amount of that. I'm not sure what level we're at right now. The top 3 are certainly a depressingly large amount better than us, I still think we're probably the best of the rest, I guess we'll see come May. But the gap to the top 3 shouldn't be so big and it's alarming how quickly it's got that big. It's only a couple of years ago we didn't look that far behind but I guess that's what happens when you sell all your best players.

As for the style...well, it's not like it was but you're massively exaggerating how bad it is.
We're not Stoke. We don't just kick and rush, we don't just kick the opposition and try to stop them playing.
You're too young to remember the thoroughly enjoyable 92/93 season. We scored 40 goals in 42 league games. It was the height of 'boring boring Arsenal'. It's nowhere near that bad now but I agree it's not that great either.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Gazidis

Never saw him as Wenger's boss tbh.