He obviously won't sign it.Originally Posted by ollie the optimist
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He obviously won't sign it.
how about pulling our fucking fingers out, realising sometimes we have to pay through the nose to help with the 'bigger picture' of where the team is at the moment, fuck off squilaci, fuck off denilson, fuck off bendtner, fuck off chamakh, fuck off diaby and then paying 100k won't even be an issue.
Yeah I kind of get that feeling too, IMHO we gave him the 75K per week ultimatum in the summer and out of principle aren't prepared to increase our offer.
I personally think if he wants to stay for 90K per week and we're offer only 80K per week we're cutting our nose off to spite our face.
Theo is one of our best performers this season and is our top scorer, that is fact. Theo appears to be maturing into a very decent player and is our best winger IMHO.
Heck he's probably our best Centre forward too. I absolutely don't understand what we're doing here...and If I'm honest I think we've blown it with Theo.
Do the board and Arsene honestly believe we can build a competitive team when we strip it of our best players every single season...Newcastle can keep hold of their best players, so can the Sc*m to a lesser degree...yet we sell our crown jewels every single season.
It's absolutely ridiculous and I'm sick of it.
Are we really going to allow a player to dictate where he will play? By contract? That can't happen and Walcott wouldn't get that agreement anywhere. He's said he's leaving everything, bar the sniping in interviews, to his agent. In which case this is all about the money. What else are agents going to discuss? Just shows how much quality has departed this team if the notion of Walcott being top earner is acceptable. Another symptom of the chavs and arabs killing the game. There is no "going rate" when a couple of clubs have inflated salaries to monopoly money levels. The going rate simply becomes whatever these two fancy at any given time, turds like Gareth Barry end up being paid six figures a week. Jenks from non-league footie on to £100K if he gets a few more caps under his belt, which he might? Ryan Shawcross?
Whatever happened to doing the time and delivering the results? Walcott has sat on our treatment table half his career and taken the money. He's a scarcely deserved (given his performances) England international on the back of playing for us, one of the bigger clubs. The whole Theo hype is because of his relationship with Arsenal. We have begged him for consistency, a little more thought to his football, the realisation of his potential. Now he suddenly starts to perform when his contract is being negotiated.
Before that, nah, just take the money, just take the chants of the fans, just take the extraordinary amount of good will he's been given by the fans. As soon as he gained the upper hand he planted his feet and started issuing demands. First chance he got. Now we see the real Theo Walcott. And because the team has had so much talent ripped from it we are left with the dilemma (as fans) of hoping an ungrateful piece of shit stays on his terms. And to compound it we are run by another bunch of shits who probably can't wait to push him out the door.
We don't get much as fans at this place, do we?
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There's an intolerable level of arrogance running through our club. Its shown in many ways - and one of the most galling appears to be the readiness to cut off our noses to spite our faces when it comes to wage policies/selling players. I agree that you cannot have players dictating terms to a club. But by the same token we are living in a world where clubs have to accept that decent players have a lot of power in the marketplace. There are degrees - and it certainly seems that our club is prepared to sacrifice continuity and success on the pitch for principle. If we were a club that simply couldn't pay more than our valuations of certain players then it would be one thing. But we spunk a massive wage bill that is itself bloated by payments to utterly mediocre players who rarely, if ever, play for us. Is Walcott worth £90K per week? He is worth what the market will pay for him. And while he is an asset to our team - which he undoubtedly is - he should be treated as such - not frozen out while the club seems almost unwilling to make the effort to keep him.
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Yep, there's nothing wrong with having principles but we really ought to get with the program. I don't care if it's about money and neither should anyone, Football doesn't have a moral compass anymore.
Absolutely, our wage structure is an utter mess, the fact that 2 of our highest earners in Chamakh and Arshavin rarely get a sniff of action speaks volumes.
There's an intolerable level of arrogance running through our club. Its shown in many ways - and one of the most galling appears to be the readiness to cut off our noses to spite our faces when it comes to wage policies/selling players. I agree that you cannot have players dictating terms to a club. But by the same token we are living in a world where clubs have to accept that decent players have a lot of power in the marketplace. There are degrees - and it certainly seems that our club is prepared to sacrifice continuity and success on the pitch for principle. If we were a club that simply couldn't pay more than our valuations of certain players then it would be one thing. But we spunk a massive wage bill that is itself bloated by payments to utterly mediocre players who rarely, if ever, play for us. Is Walcott worth £90K per week? He is worth what the market will pay for him. And while he is an asset to our team - which he undoubtedly is - he should be treated as such - not frozen out while the club seems almost unwilling to make the effort to keep him.
How can we have this principle of not paying our best players a modest wage yet happily pay surplus and squad players fairly big wages, in the case of Arshavin and Chamakh big wages. We reward mediocrity yet when players in the team improve and start performing at a high level we seem to struggle to accept that we should reward them, I'm not talking about paying them Man City salaries either.
I accept in the case of RVP, Nasri & Fabregas that for one reason or another the situation was out of our control but I absolutely don't accept that with Theo, In fact I think to a degree (albeit slightly in hindsight) his original wage request was fair considering his performances last season and his status in the league.
I've no doubt that from a footballing point of view we're going to absolutely regret Theo leaving. Commercially we'll suffer too, he sells a lot of shirts apparently. Add that to the fact he won't be adequately replaced, who is Arsene kidding when he says if Theo is sold he'll replace him with a player of the same stature. He won't do that, he'll replace him internally, we all know this.
Personally I feel our season will suffer if Theo is sold.
How pig headed can the guys at the top be?
We've offered him a contract of 75K he clearly wants more regardless of him playing up front.
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