What is stalling Theo??

[Olivier's xmas twist]

'theo' could be replaced with 'henry','vieira','bergy','keown', 'adams', 'wenger' etc and it will mean shit --- never meant shit.

In fact, most couldn't wait to see the back of henry!

Rubbish ablsoute rubbish. Henry was a Legend here, everyone would have loved him more had he stayed. However people knew he was getting old and had a better chance at winning the Cl with barca.

[LDG]

It's all nuts anyway.

It's a big game being played out between Theo, his agent, the lawyers and the club. They're all hankering for the best deal. Theo wants money, the board want to turn a profit....but you have to say the winner (short term) is going to be the owners. Basically, if Theo doesn't accept what they offer, they sell him. It's win win for them. There's profit wherever they turn.

And it's win win for Theo too. If he get's what he wants, he's handsomely paid. If he doesn't, he goes somewhere else to be handsomely paid.

The only losers are the fans. And we're where they get all the fucking money from!!

The only game all of them have to play, is to try and show who cares most about us lot, so we keep paying up....but the trouble is, they are becomming more and more detatched from us fans the more they earn.

*sigh*

[V-Pig]

Wonder what young Theo would feel to see his current self haggling with a giant club over how many millions of pounds he's going to be paid a year and deciding whether instead he should move to the real-life-football-manager-on-cheat-mode oil club and play once a month.

I bet it used to be about the football.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It's all nuts anyway.

It's a big game being played out between Theo, his agent, the lawyers and the club. They're all hankering for the best deal. Theo wants money, the board want to turn a profit....but you have to say the winner (short term) is going to be the owners. Basically, if Theo doesn't accept what they offer, they sell him. It's win win for them. There's profit wherever they turn.

And it's win win for Theo too. If he get's what he wants, he's handsomely paid. If he doesn't, he goes somewhere else to be handsomely paid.

The only losers are the fans. And we're where they get all the fucking money from!!

The only game all of them have to play, is to try and show who cares most about us lot, so we keep paying up....but the trouble is, they are becomming more and more detatched from us fans the more they earn.

*sigh*

[Niall_Quinn]

Wonder what young Theo would feel to see his current self haggling with a giant club over how many millions of pounds he's going to be paid a year and deciding whether instead he should move to the real-life-football-manager-on-cheat-mode oil club and play once a month.

I bet it used to be about the football.

The only break I give him is he's still a kid and it must be a hard job indeed not to get bitten by all the snakes that come crawling when there's money to be made off another person's back. Including your own family, as we have seen before. But that was what he was supposed to be, the kid with his feet planted on the ground. That's one of the reasons we all got behind him even though he took an age to start delivering on some of the potential he promised. It certainly didn't help when he dumped onto the England bench having hardly kicked a ball at the top level. A cynical marketing ploy by the Jimmy Savilles of the commercial world.

[Niall_Quinn]

It's all nuts anyway.

It's a big game being played out between Theo, his agent, the lawyers and the club. They're all hankering for the best deal. Theo wants money, the board want to turn a profit....but you have to say the winner (short term) is going to be the owners. Basically, if Theo doesn't accept what they offer, they sell him. It's win win for them. There's profit wherever they turn.

And it's win win for Theo too. If he get's what he wants, he's handsomely paid. If he doesn't, he goes somewhere else to be handsomely paid.

The only losers are the fans. And we're where they get all the fucking money from!!

The only game all of them have to play, is to try and show who cares most about us lot, so we keep paying up....but the trouble is, they are becomming more and more detatched from us fans the more they earn.

*sigh*

That's about it. You feel like jumping up and down and shouting, hello, remember me? Except you don't because PHW would have an ignorant one liner to reduce you to apoplectic rage. Fingers crossed for Jack Wilshere. He might stay.

...Just like RvC did

[GP]

That's about it. You feel like jumping up and down and shouting, hello, remember me? Except you don't because PHW would have an ignorant one liner to reduce you to apoplectic rage. Fingers crossed for Jack Wilshere. He might stay.

...Just like RvC did

Thank you for your interest in our affairs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Thank you for your interest in our affairs.

[Niall_Quinn]

Thank you for your interest in our affairs.

[Kano]

Terry, you had a go at me some weeks back but I'm going to dig up the issue again because I'm seeing examples of the sort posts that really tick me off and I just can't understand the logic. I'm calling it out again because it's just senseless.

I don't get how and why people are making arguments that play right into the hands of the Board and justifies their cost cutting measures while eating away at the talent we have on the field. It's obvious that Theo has had a positive impact to say the least and he's already chipped in with his fair share of goals and assists this season like he has done in the past. We simply can't afford to lose him. £75k, £100k...wing, central....it doesn't matter. He's a valuable member to this squad. The club just aren't doing enough to keep our best players and that has been made perfectly clear over the past two summers. We will continue to fall down the pecking order if we continue down this route and everyone has pretty much agreed on that point in other threads. But when you see some of the comments in here today, you have to wonder where certain posters heads are at.

It pisses me off to see such comments here and then visit threads weeks later when the shit hits the fans and the same posters are bemoaning our decline as a club and the way we keep losing players. Greedy board this, Wenger this and that but when you look at certain comments they're practically giving a seal of approval to such policies. It's not just here either. Blogs like Arseblog and Le Grove do it as well and loads of Gooners read these blogs on a daily and they only fuel the flames to turn the fans against the player. It plays right into the hands of the Board.

With the RVP situation, PHW linked RVP to Man City and practically accused him of greed and tried to manipulate the fans by talking about player loyalty at Man Utd with players like Scholes and Giggs. Months down the line we find out that RVP turned down a move to City, no contract over was even made by the club and Podolski and Giroud were already lined up as his replacement ages ago, even though Wenger said that they weren't weeks earlier. Nothing but lies from the club and that needs to be remembered. I won't even go too deep into the Song situation either but many bought into the lies in that situation too and comfortable with the prospect of losing another key player.

Now you may think this is smug and it's an 'I know better' type post, but you'd be missing the point and totally wrong. There is no shame in being conned by these vultures once, but for it to happen again and again is a little too much to take. You have to brain dead to not connect the dots after the bullshit we;ve seen over the years and routine patterns/outcome. We need to wake up to the fact that we're being conned and when we're being conned. This Theo situation is a clear example of the sting being put on us and I don't want us to be in a situation where we applaud the club for being shrewd businessmen and pat them on the back for their handling of the situation, then look back in retrospect, see it as the point at where our season fell apart and then crucify the club for their business practice.

when it comes to the ****s that run the club, fuck em, call em out all you want. my point was about you pointing the finger toward other fans who, in a sense, have had their illusions shattered. its not a nice place to be, as i'm sure you've been there too. the last thing you want to hear when you come round to your senses is 'i told you so'.

fans 'buy' into the lies because of love of the club and hoping for a change to things, because they care. they will fight their corner against the 'doom-mongers' (jesus christ i hate that gay term) and the same will happen back, its all part of the nature at any given time. but let's not forget the real enemy sits high up in the boardroom of our club rather than next to us in the stadium or somewhere quoting a post of ours.

you talk of the games the board are playing with the club and conning everyone into thinking one thing before doing another but one thing we all need to be aware of is the divisive nature of their approach and the damage it can and will do to the all important bond shared between fans, especially through the tough times. by causing such a division it allows a middle ground for them to not only fool 'the gullible' but fuck with the so called smarter set of fans who think they are savvy to what is going on. playing both sides off each other creates the perfect grey area for more bs to be delivered to us all with absolutely none of us being any the wiser as to what is going on. i mean seriously, how many years were fans sitting around scratching their heads over whether there was money available or not? and where did that confusion come from? conflicting messages from the clubs management. and whilst we all sat and called each other ****s for believing one side over the other, who was sitting back laughing and continuing as they were?

i'm not here to police your posts or stop you 'calling fans out' but i think jumping onto people, who with the best of intentions, were wanting something positive to happen, is not helpful and creates a larger problem. i personally don't see what you get from it but you don't need me to tell you what to do. i just tell you what i think, as we all do here.