Honest Frank the Muppet and other Chavs sh!t

[GP]

no the players didnt spout of the to the meida post match, the manager did. he said it to the press. the press were the first to know, thus making it a trial by media for clattenburg.

100% correct.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

no the players didnt spout of the to the meida post match, the manager did. he said it to the press. the press were the first to know, thus making it a trial by media for clattenburg.

[gooners]

no the players didnt spout of the to the meida post match, the manager did. he said it to the press. the press were the first to know, thus making it a trial by media for clattenburg.

Okay; so he put the club on the spot then (maybe one of the reasons he got the boot?)

Anyway, my point is amidst all of that speculation the club had to formally clear up publicly how seriously they were taking the issue.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

chelsea did not accuse clattenburg of anything; they merely reported a serious complaint - which they had no way of ascertaining its veracity -- made to them by their player(s) to the relevant governing body.

it turned out, there was no substance to it -- so the players who made the allegation should be sanctioned and made to apologise. Chelsea as a club/employer did what they were obligated to do

Does not matter one of their staff did, makes then negelant, they should have come out straight away and dropped the complaint. Yet they allowed the mancs life and Career to be runied and his rep tainted.

Lets be honest had they not lost nothing would have been said.

[McNamara That Ghost...]

Chelsea as a club are responsible, or rather, accountable for the pursuit of it, I cannot accept that they don't have the ability to look at all the facts and then consider if there is a possiblity it could get thrown out - not that on the balance of probablity something was said, that there wasn't even a case to answer. That is really poor and reckless.

Also, whether it is Ramires or David Luiz or whoever that started the allegation, it should make no difference - the club website is representative of all aspects and employees of that club. Suggesting one of those with the initial complaint (and Mikel) should be the only ones to apologise is not fair, they are all part of the club, Chelsea should not be hanging them out to dry. They have their own accountability, or at least, should do.

[gooners]

Chelsea are responsible for the pursuit of it, I cannot accept that they don't have the ability to look at all the facts and then consider if there is a possiblity it could get thrown out - not that on the balance of probablity something was said, that there wasn't even a case to answer. That is really poor and reckless.

Also, whether it is Ramires or David Luiz or whoever that started the allegation, it should make no difference - the club website is representative of all aspects and employees of that club. Suggesting one of those with the initial complaint (and Mikel) should be the only ones to apologise is not fair, they are all part of the club, Chelsea should not be hanging them out to dry. They have their own accountability, or at least, should do.

From their vantage point, that is impossible to do. Should they have asked the FA to release to them records of the refs mics? They had to lob it to the FA to investigate. It is that simple.

As to what then happens if it turned out to be a bogus claim, see my previous posts. Any claim that chelsea are scum or lack class can be made after such actions/inactions materialise

[Niall_Quinn]

Okay; so he put the club on the spot then (maybe one of the reasons he got the boot?)

Anyway, my point is amidst all of that speculation the club had to formally clear up publicly how seriously they were taking the issue.

You're just making stuff up, like the chavs. The club made a complaint to the PL officials at the match alleging inappropriate language used by the referee to their players. They then issued a statement to the press, it was that **** Atkins and it's his job to speak for the club. THEN they began their investigation. Did RDM make any allegations? I can't recall. But the club certainly did and then they dumped the whole thing on the media. It was days later before their lawyers got the chance to tell them they were being complete low lifes and there was fuck all evidence. Even then they went ahead with the claims.

Money means nothing to this club so they should have points docked, that would be fair. Or they should be suspended from the league for a month with total points loss and automatic knockout from any cup ties during the period. A like for like punishment with the one Clattenberg has already suffered.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

You're just making stuff up, like the chavs. The club made a complaint to the PL officials at the match alleging inappropriate language used by the referee to their players. They then issued a statement to the press, it was that **** Atkins and it's his job to speak for the club. THEN they began their investigation. Did RDM make any allegations? I can't recall. But the club certainly did and then they dumped the whole thing on the media. It was days later before their lawyers got the chance to tell them they were being complete low lifes and there was fuck all evidence. Even then they went ahead with the claims.

Money means nothing to this club so they should have points docked, that would be fair. Or they should be suspended from the league for a month with total points loss and automatic knockout from any cup ties during the period. A like for like punishment with the one Clattenberg has already suffered.

Just remember the wum your replying to.

[gooners]

You're just making stuff up, like the chavs. The club made a complaint to the PL officials at the match alleging inappropriate language used by the referee to their players. They then issued a statement to the press, it was that **** Atkins and it's his job to speak for the club. THEN they began their investigation. Did RDM make any allegations? I can't recall. But the club certainly did and then they dumped the whole thing on the media. It was days later before their lawyers got the chance to tell them they were being complete low lifes and there was fuck all evidence. Even then they went ahead with the claims.

Money means nothing to this club so they should have points docked, that would be fair. Or they should be suspended from the league for a month with total points loss and automatic knockout from any cup ties during the period. A like for like punishment with the one Clattenberg has already suffered.

No; merely using ollies own 'facts' against him.

Edit: There was nothing to investigate really. They had to report it to the FA for any proper investigation to occur.

[Niall_Quinn]

No; merely using ollies own 'facts' against him.

Regardless, you'd be better off dropping this defence of the indefensible chavs and doing a Redknapp to Arsenal thread instead.