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    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Quinn View Post
    Regardless, you'd be better off dropping this defence of the indefensible chavs and doing a Redknapp to Arsenal thread instead.

    I am not defending chelsea -- just arguing there is no other way this could have panned out, especially considering the nature and circumstances of the allegation

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    Quote Originally Posted by gooners View Post
    From their vantage point, that is impossible to do. Should they have asked the FA to release to them records of the refs mics? They had to lob it to the FA to investigate. It is that simple.

    As to what then happen if it turned out to be a bogus claim, see my previous posts.
    No it is not impossible to do, you don't just say 'he said this, there you go, investigate' because ultimately it reflects badly on them as an organisation if something turns out to be as you say 'bogus', hence why we and other forums (including Chelsea's) are having this discussion. They are supposed to be a professional organisation, not kiss and tellers. Chelsea at the very least would've known, or should've found out Mikel did not hear anything, that he was told in a third person way; nobody else heard a thing like was supposed to have been said.

    In my mind Chelsea acted with haste because of how 'wronged' they felt in the result. As has been said they did not have to go publically with the accusations and I say they regardless with whoever that might be - Chelsea as a club put out a statement that is faceless, therefore it would be reasonable for them to put out an apology in a representative club statement for potentially ruining a referee's career in a manner that could've been handled very differently.

    They could easily say we acknowledge that our hastiness to protect our players in retrospect could have affected the livelihood of another man's career. As it is, it just seems like they don't really care that could (depending on crowds up and down the country) the latter part of that possible statement could still happen.

    Certainly I can't see Clattenburg refereeing a Chelsea game again.

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    gooners, you really do confuse me, you say you are an arsenal fan yet viciously attack anything they do, yet when our rivals do something, you passaiontly defend them. you're wumming skills need to get better

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    gooners, you really do confuse me, you say you are an arsenal fan yet viciously attack anything they do, yet when our rivals do something, you passaiontly defend them. you're wumming skills need to get better
    Uhuh

    He's still crying after 17 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    gooners, you really do confuse me, you say you are an arsenal fan yet viciously attack anything they do, yet when our rivals do something, you passaiontly defend them. you're wumming skills need to get better
    Angry Ollie scares me.

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    Don't think an apology should be issue, reason being the referees don't come out and apologise or even acknowledge their awful errors when they make them.

    If they had to answer to their mistakes then fine, but they get away with some shockers week in week out without ever facing any repercussions.

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    That's stupid FA (well FIFA really) protocol though.

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    Agreed, but you reap what you sow, it might not be the refs but I don't ever see any apologies at any stage from them either...they just insist they were right rather than put their hands up. Maybe there's something to learn from this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Don't think an apology should be issue, reason being the referees don't come out and apologise or even acknowledge their awful errors when they make them.

    If they had to answer to their mistakes then fine, but they get away with some shockers week in week out without ever facing any repercussions.
    So thats down to the fa.

    They accused the ref of being a racist. Might as well have called him a peado its ok cause he got away with stuff in the match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Agreed, but you reap what you sow, it might not be the refs but I don't ever see any apologies at any stage from them either...they just insist they were right rather than put their hands up. Maybe there's something to learn from this.
    Sounds like something from the playgroud.

    He did it to me 1st so i'll do it to him.

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