Honest Frank the Muppet and other Chavs sh!t

[Olivier's xmas twist]

i think ramires was genuine with mishearing what was said but how it was handled after that has made this whole thing a complete shambles.

Spot on. They should have waited till they got the "evidence" before going to the media. Thats where the problem is. Don't blame Ramirez he could only say what he thought he heard.

[Özim]

what a stupid argument. you cant just accuse people of crimes because you dont respect them, you know, you kind of need evidence for it. you just cant accuse willy nilly because you think they need to be brought down a peg or two.


the problem is not ramies mishearing it, which is possible, its the manner in which they complained to hte press first, then to the Fa.

This is football after all, you can't treat it like the real world....you have people feeling sorry for people earning millions a year....hardly true to life.

[Özim]

Spot on. They should have waited till they got the "evidence" before going to the media. Thats where the problem is. Don't blame Ramirez he could only say what he thought he heard.

Since when does anyone who goes to the press wait till they've got evidence?

Let's face it it's a waste of time taking it to the FA they protect their own, even if he had been guilty of whatever it was he was accused of, the FA wouldn't be unlikely to want to acknowledge it.

[Ollie the Optimist]

This is football after all, you can't treat it like the real world....you have people feeling sorry for people earning millions a year....hardly true to life.

doesnt matter wehther its football or not, you jsut can't accuse people of crimes without evidence because you dont respect them. you just cant do that. doesnt matter wether they have millions or nothing, you just cant accuse people of crimes willy nilly

[Özim]

doesnt matter wehther its football or not, you jsut can't accuse people of crimes without evidence because you dont respect them. you just cant do that. doesnt matter wether they have millions or nothing, you just cant accuse people of crimes willy nilly

It kinda does, you wouldn't get away with the stuff that goes on in football in real life, Joey Barton doesn't get charged with assault and have to go to court when he punches someone on the pitch does he?

[McNamara That Ghost...]

And it doesn't serve to help those that in the future might be legitimately racially abused.

[Özim]

Anyone who does not want to look like a fool like Chelsea do. Lets hope you don't piss off the little girl down the street, she might accuse you of abusing her but hey who needs evidence right fair is fair.

I'm not sure they looks like fools, they'll just say Ramirez misheard end of....how does this affect them exactly?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

What? Ashley Cole came out and defended him...he was clearly guilty of using racist language against someone (and like I said that's totally wrong), however a racist dislikes someone based on skin colour and I don't see why Ashley Cole would come out and defend him if he thought he was racist.

Easy he is his club captain and Terry is the only one untouchable at that club, If Ashley wnats to stay there, he has to be on Terry's good side. Had he went as said Terry was a racist he'd be sacked by now its simple.

Ashley cole is not stuipid, neither is Mikel who also stuck for Terry.

[Kano]

Doing what they want with no repercussions....bit too close to home that one!

you know what i mean though. in the grand scheme of things some referee decisions going against them hardly takes away the power they wield on and off the pitch.

[Özim]

And it doesn't serve to help those that in the future might be legitimately racially abused.

No of course not, but we've seen cases of players getting accused, some found guilty some not found guilty, this isn't going to change much.