The biggest disappointment for me is that it's one thing to lose to United and Chelsea, but to struggle to beat Sunderland, Stoke, Norwich, Fulham, Villa...hell, even QPR we left it late and got a fortuitous goal, it's a poor show. I'm starting to think maybe this is actually the year we balls it up once and for all and finish 5th. The team has certainly shown little to suggest otherwise.
Last edited by Marc Overmars; 24-11-2012 at 10:14 PM.
Oh shut up you berk. Fire your fitness staff if they truly are that knackered, or maybe just maybe, realise that you need enough depth of quality in the squad that you are not "resting" some for everything other than FA or Carless CupsOriginally Posted by Wiltord's Winner
Society is now one polished horde
Formed by two mighty tribes, the bores and the bored.
"After all, it was the Gunners’ goalkeeper who started the move that culminated in Thomas’ crowning glory. It was Lukic who, in injury time, decided to throw the ball out to Lee Dixon rather than lump it long..."
Wenger is going to fall on his own sword. He reacts badly to criticism and his end here will be a messy fall out with the fans. You can see it coming.
Disgusting how Wenger is treated on here. People have to realise that this Arsenal side is the worst one I have seen in my 50 odd years of watching this once great club. We are now a laughing stock. It would hurt but I'm laughing at them myself. That's the point I'm at. The “I don't give a shit til Wenger fucks off" point. The spine of our team is terrible. We won't get top 4. That is certain. I'd love it if I was wrong but I have been proven right so many times about this club and its players that I will be about this unfortunately. Enjoy every point we get this season guys and enjoy the CL. We won't be back any time soon.
The away fans are considered the last bastion of loyalty and to hear them singing that suggests his time is nearly up.
Wenger has been producing a minor miracle season after season for quite a while now. What other club gets raped of its best players every fucking year, year after year, yet comes back each time with a top 4 finish? The guy is a modern day Sisyphus, a bloody colossus, badly let own by this shitty contemptuous owner and board.
It's Catch 22 for the fans. What other manager is going to do better? But then, what other manager is going to go on indulging this board?
Agree 100%. We used to be a great counter-attacking team and now we play like robots.
thats bollocks.
a manager comes in and:
1. drops ramsey
2. puts players in their natural positions
3. makes sensible substitutions instead of taking off effective players
4. employs the right tactics not this tippy tappy slow tempo shit
5. employs tactics against each opposition instead of playing the same formation every game
6. is able to motivate the players
and you're gonna tell me we wont perform better? he is a manager, not a CEO.
he does not justify his pay packet. he does not justify his untouchable position. he does not justify being given another chance to try and build another team at this club.
you know, i know, everyone knows we will win nothing with wenger in charge. its a ticking timebomb and we're just wasting years until he goes. he does not have it in him to build another title winning team, he couldnt do it with the 07/08 team which was far superior than our current team in every aspect, so he wont be able to do it now.
supporting this club whilst wenger is in charge is pointless because we're just passing time until the day comes when he finally fucks off. it wouldnt be a problem if we weren't charged the highest ticket prices in the country and milked at every opportunity. but they're taking the piss.
deep down we all know it's over. in your heart of hearts you know wenger will not win another trophy here. it went downhill since that carling cup defeat and the players all gave up on him, one by one, and fucked off. unfortunately we're stuck with him until he goes. which hopefully is sooner rather than later.
Or the manager has, say, RVP, Fabregas, Nasri, Clichy and Adebayor (whatever you think of him) at his disposal. Not such a bad manager then, maybe?
Indeed. In press conferences, AGMs or whatever - when he has time to prepare - he seems to hit the right apologetic tone in his answers; the verbal equivalent of the puppy-dog eyes. And we feel sorry for him and we obviously want him to do well.
But when the same questions are asked after a disappointing result, he struggles to handle it and gives a very odd impression of himself. I don't normally look for his post-match interviews any more but I'm on Arsenal.com and there is still no sign of the usual write-up of his post-match interview, which suggests to me that the club are having to work very hard to clean up his answers.
There have been a lot of grumblings but I think the first real nagging confrontation with the crowd happened when the boo's/ironic cheers happened in the Eboue substitution. That's when Wenger got very worried and went all out trying to make sure the fans knew that they needed to be behind the team at all times. Obviously last season with the Oxlade substitution it was more transparent and he handled that very badly. We've seen it (slightly) with Gervinho this season.
In any career, if you have to keep pointing to your longevity and what you have accomplished years ago in response to your current struggles, you're in trouble. He wants to live off his past reputation. It's always the same responses when pushed; "I've been manager for 30 years, what do you know?", "I've made 50,000 substitutions, how many have you made?", "All I can do is try my best"...it's defensive and it's desperate.
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