Wenger's legacy - has it held us back

[IBK]

I feel a bit stupid for thinking Wenger had some altruistic qualities. In reality, he has shown himself not to be an Arsenal man...and why would he be? He's French with no childhood memories of being taken to games or following Arsenal. This is just a job for him - and fair play, he earns a lot of money. I don't feel he deserves to be treated with the respect. Effing and jeffing won't help but I just think nothing of him now. He's another suit.

I think you sum things up well. the discontent that is being seen now is disillusionment as much as anything else.

[IBK]

From Another Arsenal Blog today

As a one off today would have been just that, but in the context of the season so far and recent seasons, we are seeing a worrying trend, a sad demise, a great manager reaching the end of the road and a team that is failing on many levels on a repeated basis. Recent performances against Swansea, Villa, Everton, Manu, Schalke, Fulham and Norwich have been concerning, to say the least.

We lack quality and certain attributes in the squad, however the players we have are still not as bad as recent performances would suggest. The most worrying thing in my eyes is that Arsene is not managing the players well. Our formation and tactics are tired and predictable. Teams have worked us out, we lack an attacking cutting edge, we are poorly organised in terms of the team's whole defensive shape and we are tactically naive. The sum of our parts is mediocre, and this is not good enough given the size of the club and our expenditure in terms of wages.

I am not angry, I am just sad at what we have become and how our manager has lost the plot. There is little more to say. The end of the road is not a pleasant place to be, I have massive respect for the manager but it is obvious that he does not have long left at the helm. Finally great credit to Swansea who are an excellent side and thoroughly deserved the win today.

Very good summary, I think.

[Syn]

I think you sum things up well. the discontent that is being seen now is disillusionment as much as anything else.

I don't know where you draw the line, but it has to be well before selling your captain to Man Utd. I wonder if there is anything Wenger won't do for his share of the pie. Even if he only treats this as a job, how can you respect a man that can't stand up to his employers after 16 years of service?

Wenger has no breaking point and will continue to carry out humilating tasks as long as money is thrown his way. He's a sell-out and a pussy and he needs to fuck off.

[IBK]

From Le Grove

How, in the name of Bergkamp, can we not have a squad with enough depth when we’re shelling out a wage bill 11% short of United’s.

The signs are there. Wenger is floundering.

[IBK]

I don't know where you draw the line, but it has to be well before selling your captain to Man Utd. I wonder if there is anything Wenger won't do for his share of the pie. Even if he only treats this as a job, how can you respect a man that can't stand up to his employers after 16 years of service? Wenger has no breaking point and will continue to carry out humilating tasks as long as money is thrown his way. He's a sell-out and a pussy and he needs to fuck off.

IMHO its Wenger calling the shots. Not the board. Why would the Wenger that achieved the good things that he achieved in the early years allow the board to tarnish his legacy. The board might be complicit, but the responsibility is Wenger's.

[Syn]

IMHO its Wenger calling the shots. Not the board. Why would the Wenger that achieved the good things that he achieved in the early years allow the board to tarnish his legacy. The board might be complicit, but the responsibility is Wenger's.

Nah, come on, as much as we like to joke about 'footballing reasons', nobody can think selling Van Persie, the best player in the league by far, to a team you're hoping to cut the gap, can be a good idea.

We are currently that episode of the Simpsons where Homer is Mr. Burns' monkey. Arsene Simpson IMO.

[IBK]

Nah, come on, as much as we like to joke about 'footballing reasons', nobody can think selling Van Persie, the best player in the league by far, to a team you're hoping to cut the gap, can be a good idea.

We are currently that episode of the Simpsons where Homer is Mr. Burns' monkey. Arsene Simpson IMO.

So why does Wenger stay? Honestly. Why not fuck off to PSG? I honestly can't understand why a proud, stubborn man, who can say that he is the best we have had, would put up with being undermined. I mean its not as though its a money thing. What is Wenger's motivation if he is being manipulated?

[Gervinho's Forehead]

So why does Wenger stay? Honestly. Why not fuck off to PSG? I honestly can't understand why a proud, stubborn man, who can say that he is the best we have had, would put up with being undermined. I mean its not as though its a money thing. What is Wenger's motivation if he is being manipulated?

I believe never quitting a contract also has something to do with it.

[IBK]

I believe never quitting a contract also has something to do with it.

But he signed his contract in 2010! hardly flush then.

[Gervinho's Forehead]

But he signed his contract in 2010! hardly flush then.

But the current on runs until 2014 though.