Match reaction v Swansea

[Letters]

I can't even describe this as shocking because it's not. The manager has lost the dressing room. The standards at our club have eroded so badly that we've moved past the point of looking at how far behind the league leaders we are, we're now more concerned about clawing our way back to 4th place. It's beyond ridiculous and I look forwards to the day Wenger steps down because I'm beyond sick of the results, it's to the point of numbness now. The outrage just isn't there and I just want someone to change the record for fucks sake.

The part in bold is what I think too. We've got a decent group of players but they don't look like they're playing for each other. There's no leadership out there, no fight and, despite what Wenger says, no spirit. I don't believe Wenger can turn it round. It's sad. I will always be thankful for the heights he took us to but that was a long time ago now and while I think he's done well to keep us top 4 for as long as he has you just can't keep ON selling your best players year on year without replacing them and expect to stay there.

Now we have players openly questioning the club's ambition. Van Persie left for a club who could match his ambitions, who can blame him? Sagna's questioned out ambition. Theo is stalling over a contract because he's not happy with the position he's playing in. If Wenger's lost the dressing room then he needs to go. We have a squad who can finish top 4 but not playing like this and if they're not playing for Wenger then we need to find a manager they will play for.

[GP]

Reminds me of the Williams F1 team of the 90's.

Frank Williams always believed that his engineering was so good that the driver was of secondary importance. Eventually the team fell so far, they didn't win a race for 8 years.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

The part in bold is what I think too. We've got a decent group of players but they don't look like they're playing for each other. There's no leadership out there, no fight and, despite what Wenger says, no spirit. I don't believe Wenger can turn it round. It's sad. I will always be thankful for the heights he took us to but that was a long time ago now and while I think he's done well to keep us top 4 for as long as he has you just can't keep ON selling your best players year on year without replacing them and expect to stay there.

Now we have players openly questioning the club's ambition. Van Persie left for a club who could match his ambitions, who can blame him? Sagna's questioned out ambition. Theo is stalling over a contract because he's not happy with the position he's playing in. If Wenger's lost the dressing room then he needs to go. We have a squad who can finish top 4 but not playing like this and if they're not playing for Wenger then we need to find a manager they will play for.

Spot on and even if you do sell then, don't sell then to your "rivals". Wenger once said "If you keep selling your good players, you can't call yourself a big club. This season it is looking more and more the truth.

Like you say we have players their who don't want to show pride or play for him. We have a captain who looks like he wants to be elsewhere.

Wenger was a excellent manager, now he is just a good one, and as good as he is, imo he is not good enough for us, if that makes sense.

He looks ill, he does not look motivated and even he looks like he don't want to be here anymore. Players like Gev and Theo are looking around and thinking wtf. Now i know Gev is poor alot of the time. IMO he is not motivated either. I believe it was him who was pissed off just after he signed, cause he was promised he play with Nasri and nasri was sold days later.

How many of the players we have are really ambitious?