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    Quote Originally Posted by Ernesto View Post
    You've touched on something there, GB. Hypothetically speaking, if Arsenal fans suddenly decided to completely boycott one home game, do you thinks THAT will be what makes the board stand up and realise that something is desperately wrong?

    In reality, this is very difficult to accomplish. I know Manchester City did it a few years back (when they were shit), but that was at Bolton Wanderers, because they bemoaned the high ticket prices at the Reebok. An away ground is easier avoid than your home turf.
    Any business - and lets face it, whatever we think of Arsenal, the Board regard it as a business, would have to take note of something so extreme. But there are many daytrippers who would likely take up the tickets we don't. A way of hitting the club without cutting your nose off to spite your face, is to not buy anything at the stadium or any merchandise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie the Gooner View Post
    You keep going on about the Graham days. Football has changed loads since then. Not only with our club but all over. Its all about making money no matter which club your at. Only diffrence is most clubs don't show they are doing this.




    Its not a bad going through bad times on the pitch, its going through bad times at the club. This is the lowest i have been as a gooner. Not all fans are older then me you and know about the GG days Early AW days. This is what they grow up with and see it as a bad time.
    Yeah football has changed but there's not many clubs that treat their fans with so much contempt without really giving them anything. You could say Chelsea, but then they go out and sign top players and have won stuff over the years (so the fans get something out of it).

    We basically get told to like it or lump it, there's no real investment, players are sold and the management basically telling us we know nothing and that they are doing things the right way (despite this being clearly not the case) and all this whilst charging the highest prices.......no other club does this.

    This is not the same as winning and losing, this is the people at the top rolling in it and not giving a sh*t about football, it's not about the club struggling, football not being important to the guys at the top is a very bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Any business - and lets face it, whatever we think of Arsenal, the Board regard it as a business, would have to take note of something so extreme. But there are many daytrippers who would likely take up the tickets we don't. A way of hitting the club without cutting your nose off to spite your face, is to not buy anything at the stadium or any merchandise.
    I agree with you and that's a problem, but for me the attitude they show is of people who just assume the money will keep rolling in whatever the fans think, no normal company can operate like this or they would soon find they'd have no business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GB. View Post
    Any business - and lets face it, whatever we think of Arsenal, the Board regard it as a business, would have to take note of something so extreme. But there are many daytrippers who would likely take up the tickets we don't. A way of hitting the club without cutting your nose off to spite your face, is to not buy anything at the stadium or any merchandise.
    The slimy ****s would just announce the attendance as 60,030 and roll on. Wenger would say we lacked a little bit supporters. Stan would get a refund off the cops and save money giving the cleaning staff the week off. Then they sit down and have a meeting to figure if there was a way to sue the fans for breach of contract.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I agree with you and that's a problem, but for me the attitude they show is of people who just assume the money will keep rolling in whatever the fans think, no normal company can operate like this or they would soon find they'd have no business.
    In business's it makes sense to maximise income and reign in expenditure.
    People keep buying the tickets and merchandise, Wenger's done enough to keep us top 4 while making a profit in the transfer window.
    Everyone's happy. Except the fans, but football clubs have an advantage over other businesses - brand loyalty. If Sainsbury's double their prices I'll go to ASDA. If Arsenal do then I'm not going to become a Spurs fan. My only option is to withdraw my custom - but for my dad I would have done that although I don't buy the shirts any more so I don't give them any more than I need to.
    Until income starts to drop there's no reason Arsenal the business would change anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    Yeah football has changed but there's not many clubs that treat their fans with so much contempt without really giving them anything. You could say Chelsea, but then they go out and sign top players and have won stuff over the years (so the fans get something out of it).

    We basically get told to like it or lump it, there's no real investment, players are sold and the management basically telling us we know nothing and that they are doing things the right way (despite this being clearly not the case) and all this whilst charging the highest prices.......no other club does this.

    This is not the same as winning and losing, this is the people at the top rolling in it and not giving a sh*t about football, it's not about the club struggling, football not being important to the guys at the top is a very bad thing.
    Regardless of all that going on this is still a low for the club its the worst we have been on the pitch, so its a bad time for the club and its fans.

    This is why fans care, its nothing to do with those upstairs, its the love for the club. The club is going through a bad patch one of the worst i have seen. Maybe in a few years the fans lucky enough will grow uo to see Arsenal in a better way.

    This is not the same as winning and losing, this is the people at the top rolling in it and not giving a sh*t about football, it's not about the club struggling, football not being important to the guys at the top is a very bad thing.
    No but to the fans the club is struggling. Fans only want to worry about what happens on the pitch not in the boardroom/s. To me this is a bad period in Arsenal history. Even on the pitch i have never seen us be this bad and so many others would agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsMe View Post
    I don't know how there can be a waiting list to pay the highest prices around and yet get to watch dogshite on the pitch with no real effort and hunger from the players.

    It's like going to the Fat Duck and being served a McDonalds Burger.
    2 diffrent things. You go to a place like that and get treated in a bad way, then its easy to not go there again, football is not easy to walk away from.
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