Wenger's legacy - has it held us back

[Özim]

In business's it makes sense to maximise income and reign in expenditure.
People keep buying the tickets and merchandise, Wenger's done enough to keep us top 4 while making a profit in the transfer window.
Everyone's happy. Except the fans, but football clubs have an advantage over other businesses - brand loyalty. If Sainsbury's double their prices I'll go to ASDA. If Arsenal do then I'm not going to become a Spurs fan. My only option is to withdraw my custom - but for my dad I would have done that although I don't buy the shirts any more so I don't give them any more than I need to.
Until income starts to drop there's no reason Arsenal the business would change anything.

I agree with you, so it's not just another business, it's a licence to print money with (in our case) no repercussions for not keeping the customers happy.

I totally agree that until income drops nothing will change, but income won't drop if the stadium is full every week, catch 22.

[Özim]

Fly Emirates?

No, it's a ripoff have you seen their prices?

[Özim]

Regardless of all that going on this is still a low for the club its the worst we have been on the pitch, so its a bad time for the club and its fans.

This is why fans care, its nothing to do with those upstairs, its the love for the club. The club is going through a bad patch one of the worst i have seen. Maybe in a few years the fans lucky enough will grow uo to see Arsenal in a better way.

It's not a low time for the club at all, there's more money than ever, record profits and happy board members getting richer, the club is in a very very healthy place.....just not on the pitch.

There's a big difference between struggles for the club and what we're seeing now, we're not stuggling, we're choosing not to try and improve.

[Xhaka Can’t]

No, it's a ripoff have you seen their prices?

That is why I'm flying Royal Brunei.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

It's not a low time for the club at all, there's more money than ever, record profits and happy board members getting richer, the club is in a very very healthy place.....just not on the pitch.

There's a big difference between struggles for the club and what we're seeing now, we're not stuggling, we're choosing not to try and improve.

of course its a low time for the club, im not talking about what the board etc are doing. Im talking from the fans point of view. This is the lowest a lot of fans would have been well in this era anyways.

When i say clud i don't mean the board or what money they make, i mean Arsenal as in the name.

[Özim]

of course its a low time for the club, im not talking about what the board etc are doing. Im talking from the fans point of view. This is the lowest a lot of fans would have been well in this era anyways.

When i say clud i don't mean the board or what money they make, i mean Arsenal as in the name.

Then it's a low time for the fans not for the club, there's a difference (the club is in a great place).

This isn't good times bad times as I said before, it's very different it's self inflicted as the club have a choice.

[Injury Time]

No, it's a ripoff have you seen their prices?

Not used the Arsenal membership discou....oh right...
Used Bettson?

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Then it's a low time for the fans not for the club, there's a difference (the club is in a great place).

This isn't good times bad times as I said before, it's very different it's self inflicted as the club have a choice.

The club is not in a great place. The owner and those who have made money, are in a great place. thats the diffrence. The club was here before all these people and it will be after these people.

If this is not good times, then winning the league Champions league etc would not make a diffrence (lets just say we did) it will just be the money making people still making money.

The club is at its low, which is why ever paper, ever former player will tell you that. the clun and does who work for the club are not 1 in the same.

The reason's you have listed are why its a low time for the club in its history.

[BlindFaith_8]

The board that includes Wenger have become filtthy rich from the Arsenal FC gravy train, they don't give a fcuk about me and you and the other 60,000 regulars at the Emirates being ripped of every season paying the highest prices in the country to watch a load of bollox. Wenger has a % of the player sales in his contract, so apart from his staggering 7.5 mill per season salary, I guarantee you he is making an additonal 5 mill plus all going to his offshore bank account in Monaco or Zurich. Even if half the season ticket holders did not renew thier ST's, the board know there are another 30K Arsenal fans, the johnny come latelys ready to splash the cash and inherit the season ticket. We are in a lose lose situation.

[Kano]

You (the fans) putting money into the shareholders pockets is bad for the club, that's what allows them to treat the fans with contempt and get away with all the things they get away with. Until they realise it's not a gravy train they can just take for granted nothing will change.

Whether you like it or not that's the reality.

as i've said to you many times now, its so easy to say that as an internet supporter.

you have forgotten what it is like to be a fan going to a game. that's another reality you can't see.