when was the last time Arshavin smiled

[Gervinho's Forehead]

Play him in the right position and he'll be fine. He's our most creative player and people critisising him for his defensive play We all saw how good he was at the Euros so he's still go it.

Everyone must take responsibilty for tracking back and defending.

[Mr. Lahey]

He had a good burst at the Euros and then turned to into his usual half-assed ineffectual self.

It was like his Arsenal career summed up in three games.

regardless its not the point im making. the way our manager has gone about about managing the players in our team has been sub par. thats my point. Arshavin is a perfect example of this. I hardly doubt Zenit were calling him lazy before he came. they wanted him back for ffs. you have to ask why that is, i doubt that its just laziness as some claim to be.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Play him in the right position and he'll be fine. He's our most creative player and people critisising him for his defensive play We all saw how good he was at the Euros so he's still go it.

He's a lazy shit end off, just cause you play him a few yards of where he wants to be, don't mean he should not put in the effort. Guy has no pride or no passion or no ambition.

Why don't he try to leave and go to a club that will give him what he wants?

[Mr. Lahey]

Play him in the right position and he'll be fine. He's our most creative player and people critisising him for his defensive play We all saw how good he was at the Euros so he's still go it.

its craziness, i dont understand it.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Everyone must take responsibilty for tracking back and defending.

Yep.

[Xhaka Can’t]

regardless its not the point im making. the way our manager has gone about about managing the players in our team has been sub par. thats my point. Arshavin is a perfect example of this. I hardly doubt Zenit were calling him lazy before he came. they wanted him back for ffs. you have to ask why that is, i doubt that its just laziness as some claim to be.

Your example did not support your point - and that is my point.

[Cripps_orig]

its craziness, i dont understand it.

Welcome to GW. Apparently Zidane, Messi, Ronaldo etc are shit cos they can't defend Its pathetic. Whenever this guy has been given a run, he scores and assists and he tries to make things happen. That's what this team needs.

[Mr. Lahey]

Your example did not support your point - and that is my point.

ok thats fine, maybe i should have included his time at Zenit without being captain? and with Russia previously? the guy was a world class player at the time we got him, he played CF and Wenger stuck him on the wing. his performances dropped off ever since, I attribute this to the way he has been used not laziness. thats like putting Bergkakmp (im not saying he as good quality wise) on the wing and criticizing him for being a shit defender.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Welcome to GW. Apparently Zidane, Messi, Ronaldo etc are shit cos they can't defend Its pathetic. Whenever this guy has been given a run, he scores and assists and he tries to make things happen. That's what this team needs.

No one said he was shit cause he don't or can't defend, stop twisting things.

[Xhaka Can’t]

I'm not criticising his defending - I have a problem with every single aspect of his game. This is not down to a lack of ability and talent, because he has shitloads of that. He just can't be assed to consistently apply himself.

When he does - he looks magic, like he did in the first match at the Euros, only to just give up.

And that was nothing to do with Wenger - or anyone else, it was down to him and his mentality.