Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas
Dear Lord, you really are reaching.
Dear Lord, you really are reaching.
He was indeed. However he hasn't broken down for Man Utd so whatever change he made in his (personal physio) training, it has been a successful one. Man Utd's medical staff are as bad as ours.
Last season I really think had the Redknapp problems and the Redknapp for England things not come about they'd have been above us, to tall intent and purposes they had a better team...RVP was our saving grace I guess.
Some other clubs just don't have the squads to compete, we have due to our larger finances, they may not all be top quality but we have more quality to cope with the number of games for sure.
RVP injuries couldn't just be put down to back luck when he had so many of them, likewise Rosicky, Diaby, King etc.....these players just don't seem to be built for the game, either that or it's poor treatment of injuries (also very possible).
The Lord can't hear you, he's busy helping Wenger to 4th place at the moment!
Dear Lord, you really are reaching.
I don't disagree, however I still think relying on him last season was a massive gamble and it was pot luck as to whether he was going to stay fit or not, noone in their right minds could have envisaged him not getting injured for the whole season, that would be like needing to catch a plane and relying on someone who's always very late to drop you at the airport on time, it could happen but you wouldn't bet your house on it and logic would suggest it would be better to ask someone else or book a taxi.
If we finished lower than 4th you'd say the league table never lies.
We did so you dismiss it as luck.
Anything but give the club or Wenger any credit I guess.
I don't use that terminology so no
Wenger doesn't deserve credit in my book because as I've said before I think he's doing an awful job, he got enough credit in the days we were winning, the credit has run out now though.
yeah he was our saving grace but that isn't down to luck, the passes to him and his finishes weren't lucky. i'm not sure why you are isolating this argument as you are. city, utd and chelsea all have healthy doses of luck across the season, it is worth imagining what their seasons could be like if they were afforded no luck at all. there is no way you can separate those moments from the those that are down to ability. it is far too intricate; luck and ability almost go hand in hand sometimes.
You'd trust that person if they've made the effort and changes to think about the best way to achieve what they want to achieve, unlike before when they were doing the same things again and again.
Regardless of stretching an analogy to bursting point, what you're forgetting about RVP is that they were rarely wear and tear injuries; they were usually lengthy impact injuries. Unlike Diaby who can't have any hamstrings left and you can't really avoid using your hamstrings in football.
If football is so easily determined by 'luck' and 'unluck' then what's the point of ever casting judgement on anyone or anything if that is all it comes down to?
The Spurs problems were though, those don't happen in a normal season.
The teams you mention have top quality players, players of that quality will always give you a much better chance of winning, all teams do get luck however the better players you have the less you rely on it. In the days we had top players we still had lucky moments, but rarely did we need them as we'd generally win games on merit before luck played a part.
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