Sorry but this is an Internet forum. And a fan site at that. Fighting and taking the piss is at least 50% of the game. Debate is good every now and again but who the fuck wants a dedicated debating society? Everyone would piss off if that happened or was enforced. This is a pub not a lecture theatre. And because we're fans we can be wrong yesterday and not admit it today, it's allowed. It's just as much fun, if not more, to jump on every now and then and post shit as it is to engage in the detailed debate than probably nobody reads anyway. GW is a consumer item, snort it don't study it. There are posters on here who like to wind people up. It's a laugh. But they have to take the shit that comes with it, that's the other side of the coin. It's not personal, it's just GW FFS! Take Joker, for instance. He's a city fan so he gets a bit of stick. It's all fair game. Life out there is shit enough as it is. I like GW because you can have a punch up and then a laugh. I'd post with those ****s on the Guardian football section if I wanted to be all serious about it.