Chamakh is Shit

[Xhaka Can’t]

Pretty much.

Went through all this shite with Ade and was proven right with him. Cba doing it all over again. Would rather concentrate my efforts on Wenger bashing

Funny, I don't recall you stating Ade is a poisonous, egotistical money grubbing, underachieving whore who only makes an effort when it fucking well suits Emmanuel Adebayor.

Proof, or gtfo, tbh, iirc, byob, rsvp, etc.

[alexander]

I dont think Cham is shit, he did pretty well early season, scored goals, gained a few penalties. I think this season will show a much better player.

[Joker]

Worth remembering our play flowed a little better with him in the team, Nasri in particular benefiting from his quick hold-up play rather than the Van Persie style of, take a touch, do a trick then take a few more touches before laying it off.

He's essentially Heskey so he's going to get nothing but shit his entire career in England whilst providing a nice foil for his team, he's useful but he's not the superstar striker we're looking for.

I agree that RVP slows the play down and was one of the reasons for the stodgy football we saw in the second half of the season (he's not suited to playing a fast, counter attacking style of football) but I don't think with Chamakh the play was any better. He's even more slow on the ball, and his lack of imagination and willingness to take risks in terms of shooting, and his poor decision making means this guy is a liability.

I personally would get rid of all our strikers and start afresh, but given that's not feasible, I would choose to dump both Bendtner and Chamakh, getting a proper centre forward in who can hopefully take RVP's place.

[Darth Vela]

You're delusional. We were losing to silly teams and dropping points while Chamakh was in the team and suffering a goal draught. This was before RVP was back as well. Even against lower league teams in the cups he looked lost and the flow of the team wasn't any better.

As for the Heskey comparison....man, you're way off on that one. Cham is too timid and light to get that title. He doesn't win that many aerial battles against guys of similar size because he gets barged out of the way and he's not the type to hold up the ball while shriluggibg and barging off challenges. Do you remember the amount of Fresno ms and pens this guys won us?

He contributes to that over passing play we all detest. Doesn't like to shoot or play the risky pass. I said it earlier last season and I'll say it again, a guy coming in to help boost our over all possession play is worthless. As for the Nasri thing, you don't think winning French player of the year and contract talks had anything to do with his sudden distraction and dip in form?

You crazy sons a bitches! Lol. Gotta love GW!

Yeah, he's exactly like Heskey in that he works hard and helps players around him rather than Defoe-ing it up, that kind of striker never gets the credit he deserves, take a look at the general opinion of Kuyt as well.

It may well be delusion but I deal with what I saw at that time, he worked hard and held the ball up well, it benefited those around him and the team did well, were we perfect in that time? No, of course we weren't but Chamakh brought a lot to our attacking game, including those penalties and a fair few goals as well so despite him not being that clinical guy (who we, admittedly, needed after Vela continued being Vela) he did well for us, if he continues being a bit shite this year without contributing then I'm happy to write that off as simply a purple patch and move on and get someone else in but until then I'll maintain his good contributions were good contributions. I seem to remember you haven't ever liked him so that isn't gonna persuade you but it's the way I see it.

I can't, and wouldn't, deny most of the things you've said about him but if you ignore the good points and the relative merits of a player like that with the guys we have playing off him then he looks bloody awful whereas he's actually a useful player to have.

I'm sure playing off Chamakh suited Nasri quite well but yeah, given his recent attitude it might well be he just got a bit lazy.

[Marc Overmars]

Kuyt pwns Chamakh in every way possible.

[Cripps_orig]

Kuyt was shit when he first come here.

Chamakh in his first season done far better than Kuyt.

Its only recently Kuyt has looked pretty good

[Darth Vela]

Kuyt pwns Chamakh in every way possible.

I think pwn is a little too strong but I'd love to see Kuyt here.

[gunnerrrrr]

Chamach has the tools to be good but he has no bottle and desire to dominate a game which makes all the problems

[Marc Overmars]

Kuyt was shit when he first come here.

Chamakh in his first season done far better than Kuyt.

Its only recently Kuyt has looked pretty good

Kuyt forced his way into the reckoning for club and more impressively, country.

Chamakh forced his way onto the bench and the reserves.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Kuyt pwns Chamakh in every way possible.

Bit too harsh to harst to say tbh, Kuyt was shite in hit 1st season too, unless Chamack is given the same amount of time to pove it you can't really say that.

Chamackh's biggest problem was mentally he was weak, once he sorts that out he'd be top draw tbh.