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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    So are we just basically all happy that we'll get 4th (as we always do) and nothing changes as usual.
    No. We're happy that the team we support has picked up a few wins at a time they desperately needed to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh-ry Christmas View Post
    No. We're happy that the team we support has picked up a few wins at a time they desperately needed to.
    Yeah I understand that, but how will that ever lead to any changes that's really what I'm asking. Do you honestly expect us to change things when we're basically happy with what we're achieving?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    Yeah I understand that, but how will that ever lead to any changes that's really what I'm asking. Do you honestly expect us to change things when we're basically happy with what we're achieving?
    no good will ever come from wanting your team to lose games. nothing good will ever come with an attiude like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    no good will ever come from wanting your team to lose games. nothing good will ever come with an attiude like that.
    I find it quite bizarre, to be honest. I could never wish my team to lose. Every match thread, I predict a win, because that's what fans do. Honestly, what kind of fan wants or even predicts a loss? Mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ollie the optimist View Post
    no good will ever come from wanting your team to lose games. nothing good will ever come with an attiude like that.
    So how will things change then, by winning them luckily? I think not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    Yeah I understand that, but how will that ever lead to any changes that's really what I'm asking. Do you honestly expect us to change things when we're basically happy with what we're achieving?
    It doesn't matter what we, the fans, feel. It only matters what the board feel and they seem happy enough with perennial top 4 finishes and not much else.
    I guess if the fans got fed up en masse (and it's getting close to that) and stopped going/buying merchandise then maybe something would change but tbh there's not much we can do so might as well get behind them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meh-ry Christmas View Post
    It doesn't matter what we, the fans, feel. It only matters what the board feel and they seem happy enough with perennial top 4 finishes and not much else.
    I guess if the fans got fed up en masse (and it's getting close to that) and stopped going/buying merchandise then maybe something would change but tbh there's not much we can do so might as well get behind them.
    Yes I agree with that, but then you're saying that the only way we'll see changes (without the latter of your two options, which let's be honest is highly unlikely to happen) is for the club to fail to achieve it's objectives (which we were a couple weeks ago, hence the pressure) and that unfortunately requires some poor results that's all I'm saying.

    It's catch 22 really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    Yeah I understand that, but how will that ever lead to any changes that's really what I'm asking. Do you honestly expect us to change things when we're basically happy with what we're achieving?
    No fan would pay to go and watch the boys and be happy for them to lose, just so things can change. Only people that can change Arsenal are those at the top. Fans can only get behind the team when it plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivier's xmas twist View Post
    No fan would pay to go and watch the boys and be happy for them to lose, just so things can change. Only people that can change Arsenal are those at the top. Fans can only get behind the team when it plays.
    Exactly, so therefore if no fans go then they have to change things. Point proven.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    Exactly, so therefore if no fans go then they have to change things. Point proven.
    What has that got to do with losing games. I don't think you get this fan thing. Fans go because they love the club, bit because they love the way things are being run or are happy with whats going on.

    Losing games won't change anything. It just makes things worse last 2 weeks showed us that. Not going to worry about what happens in the Jan window, what happens will happen. Right now over the xmas period i want the boys to win and get confidence.
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