Quote Originally Posted by Meh-ry Christmas View Post
No, I saw it. But the 2004 team was Wenger's pretty much in its entirety.
No manager would have kicked out a player like Bergkamp so the team was entirely 'his' just to prove a point.
As GB says all teams evolve and managers are rarely at a club long enough that the teams are entirely theirs. That doesn't diminish their achievements.

If you really want to knock Wenger's achievements (and I'm not sure why any Arsenal fan would want to) then the failure to retain a title is far more damning than the fact that the Invincibles had one (significant) pre-Wenger player in.
Again, I'm not trying to diminish his achievement. I'm just pointing to a reason (which I thought was obvious, and was I wrong) why I think he won't win another title. Since when does this fall into belittling/underming his achievements category?