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    Quote Originally Posted by Merry Chrizimas View Post
    Out of all the top players we have lost in the last few years, he's the one I would be least bothered about.

    He's done well this season for sure and has been our most productive player up front so credit where credits due, I just think we've lost some far better players in the past which I wished we'd kept hold off.
    We have lost better players in the past but given that we've lost those players we have to keep Theo.
    If we still had RvP then I'd be less bothered about keeping Theo too, but we don't so we need to keep the better players we still have before the squad degrades any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshGooner View Post
    Go easy, as you're seriously bordering on overrating him here. Theo is still no world class player, awashed with talent and technical ability. Yes, he does use his attributes (pace and a moderately good shot/finish) to his advantage at times, but he's still pretty much an inconsistent git who at times looks like he doesn't have a brain. I reckon that it won't be very long before we start tearing out our hair again when he's goes completely batshit on the pitch.

    With that said, he's still pretty much our most important player post RvC. But then again we've become undeniably small time. We're not a club on a mission to compete with the best clubs in the world, so Theo, along with the heavy contingent of dross, are pretty much at home here.
    I'm not overrating him at all, just explaining what he produces and provides for the team. His stats this season are what 14 goals and 11 assists in 20 odd games, a fair few of them have been sub appearances too. Last season he reached double figures in both assists and goals. The season before was pretty much the same.

    Theo may not be the finished article and I agree he does lack a brain and technical skills at times but his stats are not to be scoffed at. You say I'm overrating him? So we lose him, who do you realistically want to replace him with who's going to immediately replicate his stats?

    Theo absolutely isn't inconsistent in our team, he's proving the opposite, to be a very consistent performer.

    Some of you guys amaze me! You complain about the team yet are happy for our best players to be sold...have you not seen our transfer policy over the past 5 years? If he's sold he won't be replaced!

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    Quote Originally Posted by selassie View Post
    I'm not overrating him at all, just explaining what he produces and provides for the team. His stats this season are what 14 goals and 11 assists in 20 odd games, a fair few of them have been sub appearances too. Last season he reached double figures in both assists and goals. The season before was pretty much the same.

    Theo may not be the finished article and I agree he does lack a brain and technical skills at times but his stats are not to be scoffed at. You say I'm overrating him? So we lose him, who do you realistically want to replace him with who's going to immediately replicate his stats?

    Theo absolutely isn't inconsistent in our team, he's proving the opposite, to be a very consistent performer.

    Some of you guys amaze me! You complain about the team yet are happy for our best players to be sold...have you not seen our transfer policy over the past 5 years? If he's sold he won't be replaced!
    Stats can be very misleading if not analyzed properly. One or two good games is all that is required to bump up some percentages.

    And just who are you trying to fool here by rubbishing the notion that Theo is inconsistent? How many years have we been watching this lad being an absolute mong on the field? How many times have we seen him being a total fuck up or anonymous?

    Lastly, this discussion was never about Theo being sold or not, so please don't skew my argument in a bid to give preeminence to yours.
    Last edited by Özil's Panoramic View; 03-01-2013 at 11:29 AM.

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    It's not even a question of what he does on the ball. Theo changes the way the opposition plays. They play a high line and Theo will fuck them. They play deep, we end up controling midfield. Inconsistant on the ball or not, striker or winger, there are few players that have this effect, AOC rarely has that kind of effect on his own for instance.

    For me it's the same no nothings judge a player based on the number of unsucessful dribbles a game as proof of *inconsistancy* whilst writing off meaningless stats like goals and assists.

    We would have lost 2 out of the last 4 games without Walcott in the side (based on missing goals and assists) - our stats (win percentage) without him in the team in all competitions this season probably backs this up quite considerably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AKBapologist View Post
    It's not even a question of what he does on the ball. Theo changes the way the opposition plays. They play a high line and Theo will fuck them. They play deep, we end up controling midfield. Inconsistant on the ball or not, striker or winger, there are few players that have this effect, AOC rarely has that kind of effect on his own for instance.

    For me it's the same no nothings judge a player based on the number of unsucessful dribbles a game as proof of *inconsistancy* whilst writing off meaningless stats like goals and assists.

    We would have lost 2 out of the last 4 games without Walcott in the side (based on missing goals and assists) - our stats (win percentage) without him in the team in all competitions this season probably backs this up quite considerably.
    We do pay him, you know? Hence, 'producing' the little much that he does should at least be what is expected of him. But then again, as I said before, we have become very small time. Sad when the player we're jizzing our pants about would be no more than a bench warmer at the big clubs.

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    Wenget says he doesn't believe the contract hold up is about money.

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    End of the day, whether Theo leaves or stays, he'll be no different from the rest of modern day mercenaries disguised as footballers.

    The minute the guy puts in a half 'decent-ish' shift, he tries to hold the club at ransom. I can't see no reason other than money why he hasn't inked a deal as yet. Wenger is not known to bend over to player demands, but he did appear to oblige Theo that centre striker role he's been demanded, so what's the bloody hold up?

    I've been watching footie for a considerable amount of years now, longer than some on here I'd presume, and I know a great player when I see one. Hence, Walcott fucking off would not really be of great bother to me, as he's nothing special. Only worry is that Wenger won't go the route of adequately replacing him - something which wouldn't be too hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc Overmars View Post
    Wenget says he doesn't believe the contract hold up is about money.
    So we can now safely conclude that it is about money then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshGooner View Post
    So we can now safely conclude that it is about money then.
    That's up to you. I was relaying what I just heard from his press conference.

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    I would take no January or summer signings as long as we keep our current side for a year. Transfer embargo.

    Theo is goin to be Defoe as fuck. Oxlade is going to be Hleb as fuck. Gibbs is going to be Glen Johnson as fuck. And Arsenal are going to be England as fuck.

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