Fabregas goes to Barca for £35million

[Power n Glory]

i swear you said you'd curse the day wenger was born if he hung onto nasri until next year, which sounded pretty serious. nas will stay btw, probably because he wants to.given what wenger has now said about cesc's focus, he has to lose the armband if he stays, it would be ridiculous to let him keep it. if super secretive wenger is willing to let that into the public domain, then it has obviously been known behind closed doors for sometime by all of the squad, which is hardly motivational.

That's a figure of speech. It's cursing without cursing. I could have wrote something more explicit. I'm not saying Wenger is an awful human being for his actions. That's warped. I also find it strange that someone can conclude that Cesc is an awful human being for wanting more than money. He's not trying to hold us to ransom and no other club is in the frame besides Barca. It's an odd perspective. He'd be shallow if he was the type to play for the highest bidder and willing to do anything for money.

[Cripps_orig]

Cesc Fabregas is planning to release a recorded goodbye message to Arsenal fans as soon as his protracted move to Barcelona goes through. Fabregas has agreed a £3m-a-year deal in principal with Barca, who have raised their offer for the midfielder to £34m. Full story: The People

Would love to see what BS he spouts out. Cunt

[IBK]

Interesting - but what do people think the club SHOULD do about Cesc. Its clear that AW recognises that his player wants to leave - but do we think that we should sell him on the cheap because of this? IMO the club has no choice but to hold out, and is doing the right thing ATM. The crunch time will come in 4 weeks. If Barcelona haven't matched our valuation by then - we will see if we lower ours.

But you have to wonder how the current situation leaves Cesc. Is he affected at all by the fact that Barca won't pay market value for him - or is the fact that he wants to play with his mates the be all and end all?

[KSE Comedy Club]

He wants to be with his mates, end of. Looks like he'll be happy sitting on the bench and making few starts or being a bit part player.

We should tell barca to match what we want by friday or he wont be sold. Then we can put him in the reserves if he wants to sulk. We should also reinvest whatever the fee may be as soon as possible to replace him with a couple of quality signings.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

Interesting - but what do people think the club SHOULD do about Cesc. Its clear that AW recognises that his player wants to leave - but do we think that we should sell him on the cheap because of this? IMO the club has no choice but to hold out, and is doing the right thing ATM. The crunch time will come in 4 weeks. If Barcelona haven't matched our valuation by then - we will see if we lower ours.

But you have to wonder how the current situation leaves Cesc. Is he affected at all by the fact that Barca won't pay market value for him - or is the fact that he wants to play with his mates the be all and end all?

Strip the Captinacy off this cunt for a start tbh, The team needs to sorted out now and know whats what tbh. At least if we have a Captain cesc can be just another player who wants to leave and what happens, happens.

[AKBapologist]

@GuillemBalague: Mata's clause to sign player cheaper (20-23m euros) finished yesterday. Clubs agreed fee, player happy to go but money didnt arrive...


@GuillemBalague: Spurs tried to get him but he only wanted to go to Arsenal or Barcelona. Without Cesc money, Arsenal didnt want 2 pay.Now he costs 60m euros

So why would we need Cesc money if Wenger is sitting on top of a mountain of cash...

[Toronto Gooner]

@GuillemBalague: Mata's clause to sign player cheaper (20-23m euros) finished yesterday. Clubs agreed fee, player happy to go but money didnt arrive...


@GuillemBalague: Spurs tried to get him but he only wanted to go to Arsenal or Barcelona. Without Cesc money, Arsenal didnt want 2 pay.Now he costs 60m euros

So why would we need Cesc money if Wenger is sitting on top of a mountain of cash...

Balague does not have a great track record for getting things right. As for the Fabregas and Mata thing, I suspect that it was more about not wanting to buy Fabregas' replacement before he has sold Fabregas.

[Niall_Quinn]

Balague does not have a great track record for getting things right. As for the Fabregas and Mata thing, I suspect that it was more about not wanting to buy Fabregas' replacement before he has sold Fabregas.

I think it's more about the Arsenal board and manager sacrificing the stability of the team in order to land the fee they want for Fabregas. Obviously they want to sell, bearing in mind Fabregas is on a long contract and wouldn't be going anywhere if the club issued a firm statement they expected Fabregas to see out his contract. So we know they are keen to sell. If the hold-out fee is really £40m (EUR40mill ?) then the club could have also issued a deadline by which time teh business needed to be done. That would have given the manager a clear picture of where the team stands going into the new season. As it is, it appears the board is happy to string this out all the way to the window closing, simply hanging around waiting to see if Barca will splash the £40mill. Obviously this is massively disruptive and might well have left the manager in a position where he can't move until Barca move. I don't actually believe that, given the funds that have poured into the club and not been spent on replacements it's hard to imagine Arsenal isn't sitting on a mountain of cash. What I see is a board that doesn't give a damn about the team, and a manager that either puts up with their shit or is on-board with it. If we lose Fabregas on the last day of the transfer window and have no time to get anyone else in then I hope the fans will know what to do.

[Olivier's xmas twist]

@GuillemBalague: Mata's clause to sign player cheaper (20-23m euros) finished yesterday. Clubs agreed fee, player happy to go but money didnt arrive...


@GuillemBalague: Spurs tried to get him but he only wanted to go to Arsenal or Barcelona. Without Cesc money, Arsenal didnt want 2 pay.Now he costs 60m euros

So why would we need Cesc money if Wenger is sitting on top of a mountain of cash...

Twitter Since when has twitter got things right tbh, if that was the case we have signed all the players it said we would by now.

[Toronto Gooner]

I think it's more about the Arsenal board and manager sacrificing the stability of the team in order to land the fee they want for Fabregas. Obviously they want to sell, bearing in mind Fabregas is on a long contract and wouldn't be going anywhere if the club issued a firm statement they expected Fabregas to see out his contract. So we know they are keen to sell. If the hold-out fee is really £40m (EUR40mill ?) then the club could have also issued a deadline by which time teh business needed to be done. That would have given the manager a clear picture of where the team stands going into the new season. As it is, it appears the board is happy to string this out all the way to the window closing, simply hanging around waiting to see if Barca will splash the £40mill. Obviously this is massively disruptive and might well have left the manager in a position where he can't move until Barca move. I don't actually believe that, given the funds that have poured into the club and not been spent on replacements it's hard to imagine Arsenal isn't sitting on a mountain of cash. What I see is a board that doesn't give a damn about the team, and a manager that either puts up with their shit or is on-board with it. If we lose Fabregas on the last day of the transfer window and have no time to get anyone else in then I hope the fans will know what to do.

I thought that there had been some form of "deadline" issued and that it was this weekend? I will have to look around to see if I can find the reports.

I agree with you that the issue is not the lack of money. Like you, I do not believe that the club does not have the funds to buy a player at 20 million or so. Personally, I think that it is down to the fact that Wenger does not want to sell either Fabregas or Nasri, and that he feels that buying players like Mata would reduce his "control" over the situation. It would be difficult to tell the board, the fans and Fabregas and Nasri that the club cannot afford to lose players like them when a replacement as good (or even better) has already been bought.