Still think that shouldn't be a red card in general, if it results in a penalty. A penalty is, by definition, a goal scoring opportunity, so Kos didn't deny City a GSO, he gave them one.
Yes, he can be coached into becoming a top class defender
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Still think that shouldn't be a red card in general, if it results in a penalty. A penalty is, by definition, a goal scoring opportunity, so Kos didn't deny City a GSO, he gave them one.
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Yeah I agree with you but we still managed to finish above Chelsea and their expensively assembled team. It was more by luck than anything really as Spurs should easily have finished third. We even had the dodgiest of all goalkeeping displays from WBA's keeper on the final day to help us get over the line.Originally Posted by StamfordBrdige
I still don't think any Arsenal fan can expect us to finish above Chelsea/Man U/City. Their squad's are miles ahead of ours.
Kos has the ability to be a great defender, but we will never see him become one under wenger.
2% away from domination. Bollocks! Wenger was saying that at a time when Chelsea were strong and Man Utd had Ronaldo and Tevez...before City arrived on the scene. Our estimations have dropped so badly because we've sold off key players and lack ambition. It's not because other teams have grown far beyond our reach, it's just us falling off so rapidily. Man Utd and Chelsea are nowhere near as strong as they once were. If we had managed to keep a hold of our players whilst adding one or two more additions over the years, we'd have been in good shape!
That would have required investment in the team, which is not a club policy.
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i think we could have the top defender in each position playing at the back and we'd still concede just as many goals, i generally think a defender is only as good as the organisation of the coaching allows them to be and you could see that at the beginning of the season where the defending was immense at times, the same level is just not there from the same players. Lack of organisation and communication leading to basic errors.
Obviously Koscielny's sending off was more of an individual lack of judgement, but even down to ten men the two goals we conceded were avoidable either switching off on free kicks like the first goal or beaten too easily down the flanks for the second goal.
Commentators always seem to blame our conceeding goals from corners or free kicks into the box as a problem with zonal marking, but the problem is not the zonal marking it's not attacking the ball when it comes into the box....our defence personnel wise has changed quite a bit in the last few years therefore you can't have the same problems and just blame the defenders.
We could have bought Phil Jagielka (who by the way is massively overrated) we could have bought Gary Cahill and we would still be conceeding these goals, either from set pieces or being caught cold by holding too much of a high line.
I find it a bit odd people thinking our defenders constantly making huge individual errors is down to Wenger's ineptness.
Our defenders aren't kids and they weren't cheap. They're all late 20's other than Gibbs and they should have ironed out their fuck ups by now. They're simply bad defenders. It's nothing to do with Wenger being a moron. Yes, Wenger doesn't get the team to press as a team and it this is a problem BUT our defenders should still get the basics right.
Kos conceding the penalty yesterday - Plain stupidity. Wenger and Bould couldn't have prevented that.
Defenders standing around arguing about the free kick awarded that leads to the second goal - Just dumb defending.
Sol Campbell seemed to do ok under Wenger.
It really is all down to the quality of player at Wenger's disposal. I don't think there's any other reason as to why we're so shit these days.
And who is bringing all these morons to the club? Wenger.
Either way the buck stops at the manager as these are his players and it his coaching. The quality of players is all down to Wenger, he gave to go ahead to replace quality(rvp) with shit so we reap what we sow. Nothing wil ever change until Wenger goes.
how many more times will this guy cost us in big games? if its not a penalty, its a red card. if its not a red card, its an own goal.
I think a lesser manager or someone having to make do with the lower tier clubs would do a better job with our defenders. With all our attacking flair we struggle to breakdown a lot of teams while it often takes a simple move or one pass to put our defence in danger. A simple cross or flick on in most cases. Campbell, Adams, Keown...they were all taught how to defend by other managers. They had a lot of experience and well drilled in the basics. So far we have had Gallas, Toure, Senderos, Hoyte, Eboue, Djourou, Squallacci, Clichy, Traore....none of them could defend properly. Now we have Kos and Vermaelen. When you have to go back almost 10 years to find a solid defensive Wenger team then you have to start questing the managers tactics or his eye for players. It's probably both. How comes he's been on such a long stretch of signing duds yet someone like Moyes can work on a fraction of our budget and pull out teams that are difficult to breakdown?
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