Always knew u rated and held Sir Jack in very high regards, tbh.Originally Posted by Cripps
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Always knew u rated and held Sir Jack in very high regards, tbh.
Just read on BBC website the news
He gets 100k which what he wanted and the deal is for 3 and a half years when we wanted 5.
Tell me who came out on top?
Feck it its over now, whether we like it or not.
Now go out and pay the big feckers release clause if you have the balls, because that is a guy that cam contribute all over the pitch and would not be a waste of money because any incoming manager would be over the moon to inheri him
I do rate Sir Jack but til he gets an end product, Theo is more important. Good to see Theo beingnpaidnwhat he's worth when you consider Jack got 80k a week for being injured
The club have done what's necessary to secure one of our best players. He's our top goal scorer and we don't need the uncertainty hanging over our heads all season. It's good for the squad because of what he brings to the team and morale, yet we've got people still complaining about the wages he's on. It's irrelevant and all this nonsense about what he's worth is crazy because our wage structure isn't based on performance related or based merit. We have a squad full of overpaid players that haven't done anything to warrant a huge wage increase because we have this silly 'socialist' model. As said before, if we cleared out most of the dross, we could afford to pay our top performers extra and this idea of a fair wage structure is suicide. They were discussing this last week on Sunday Supplement and it's something that has been repeated on here several times.
I hope the club have turned a corner with this deal. We have to abandon this socialist model because we will keep cutting our nose to spite our face. Once JW, Ox or whoever else hits their potential and other clubs start taking note, we'd end up losing them during contract negotiations because we'd be reluctant to push pass the £100k mark. As said, JW is already close to that with £85k. A 5 year deal worth £90k a week won't be accepted and would be a slap in the face if we even we even thought of offering that for his next contract. The club needs to think this model through because it's badly flawed and can't believe we have professionals signing off on this model. It's madness. But I hope they have come to their senses. Even if that's not the case, it would have been ludicrous to let Theo Walcott leave on a free transfer anyway. That's when you know they have truly lost the plot. It just doesn't make £ or sense.
If we hadn't sold almost all our quality, the hype over Theo would have at the very least been far less. That there was this angst over Walcott demonstrates how clearly how we have fallen in terms of talent and quality. PnG is right - our pay structure has led us to this situation. It is just a massive massive pity that it has come that far that it is being broken for a player of the quality of Walcott.
Had the Club taken this type of ation three years ago, had Walcott departed today, it would barely have registered and he would be a footnote in the Club's history. That nan has a lot to prove now he has that contract.
£100k per-week for a man who nutmeg himself. Wumger
somebody put something in my milk
Unfortunately it's true, we had to keep this guy because we had to stop the loss of blood somehow. For whatever reason (probably purely because he's English) Walcott is viewed as a top player. So losing him would have been another signal that Arsenal is nothing more than an incubator and shopping mall for the serious clubs.
I think what's really gone wrong with our player policy is Wenger's mistaken belief there is an ounce of loyalty in this game. Maybe there is an ounce, but that's it. He's been bringing young talent in in the hope of building long term careers at the club. I guess he's wanted to build one team behind another for a smooth progression when it was time for young players to make the step up. It's not a bad idea but it can't work when you have comedy teams like Man City and Chelsea in the league. And in all fairness any fool should be able to figure that out. We should have modified this policy sooner but it has persisted too long and has resulted in us obtaining the worst of both worlds, the loss of talent we have carefully developed plus (until recently) a lack of experience that comes about from having a youth policy as an alternative and to the exclusion of a buying policy (Barcelona mixes it up, we don't).
The kids are on higher than normal wages because we want to keep them at the club. This will mean risking silly wages on a prospect that might not make the grade. But it also means the odd Jack Wilshere comes through. Jack is the ideal example of the model working. But he's a rare case. Other supposed stars haven't materialised, Djourou being a good example. Clichy. And Ashley Cole who started the rot. Cole should have been the danger sign and the cue to make a change. Can't remember how many years ago he left now but there has been enough time between then and now to shift to a more balanced policy of youth and splashing a bit of cash on experience. That started happening as a panic measure a couple of summers back and has progressed with signings like Podolski but the damage has already been done and the huge squad we have and the high wage bill has left us at a big disadvantage.
Tie in a billionaire who doesn't want to spend a penny and the result is bland and mediocre from a footballing perspective. So I see Wenger as naive in placing his faith in the character of the modern day player and I see Kroenke as... just a tight, greedy, ignorant bastard to be completely fair about it. Bad combination.
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Pretty much agree with all of this, he's really not a particularly talented player but he's one of our better players which says more about us than it does him.
The new contract shows it was about the money all along, but hes a really good finisher and he will score a lot of goals. don't understand the negativity about this!!!
Theo got one over the club and people don't like it.
Whilst Theo is not the best player we've ever had I'm happy and I hope this is a sign we're now prepared to push the limits of our wage structure in order to keep those who are most important.
It's all well and good saying so and so is replaceable but that doesn't take into account how it affects the team losing key players and in some cases friends every year. Wenget likes to preach about keeping a core group together and this is a step in the right direction.
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