and there you have it. you just ruined your whole argument. well done.
and there you have it. you just ruined your whole argument. well done.
You're the one that came out with a nonsense comment.Originally Posted by Terry Tuffnutz
If you're going to get sarcy don't expect a serious reply.
you have only given him the diet thing, nothing else. so don't be scared of putting it out there. what else?
He's ruined it for me, too much BS, too much nonsense, too many big words whilst delivering nothing.
I'll credit him for some great football many years ago and signing some top players for sure and for some great times, but that was a long time ago now.
In pure terms he's not a great manager, IMO he's a man who's delivered some great times and football though, his skills with the right players brought success, but without those strong characters he's unable to deliver.
He's a very good manager in the right circumstances IMO.
so diet, great football and signing top players?
yet he deserves as little credit as possible for the success we enjoyed?
i'll leave it here, you've battered your own argument enough.
Not really because I've seen people use the same sort of arguments against Pep and sometimes with Mourinho.
If Pep fails miserably with Bayern, wouldn't it be fair to say he was blessed with a very taleneted squad and that's partly the reason why he was so successful?
We shouldn't dance around the issue of why Wenger has done so badly in the past 7 years. The mentality of the squad when he first arrived is worlds apart from what we're seeing now. Why is that?
I agree with this, if Guardiola does well at Bayern he'll have more credibility...repeating success somewhere else shows you can deliver in different circumstances. At Barca he had it all, money, quality players etc he also inherited Messi.
Top managers don't go years without winning if at a top club.
How many of those people are fans of the clubs where that success was delivered? That's the sad thing here.
I'm sure when the time comes in x amount of years that Goonersweb will be used as a bastion of knowledge as to why Wenger will not be our viewed as our most successful manager, a legend in the game and why the players who became legends themselves under his guidance will turn their back on him completely.
I'll keep dancing as long as you keep looning.
Not really because like I said "in the right circumstances".
He can't adapt, can't change and doesn't have the answers when the environment isn't right. That's not a great manager, great managers, evolve and adapt to changing conditions.
He's not done any of the above in the last x years, in fact it's been pretty dire.
Ah, i see you changed that after my response.
So you do think he done a great job in those years then, we agree on that?
I'm not interested in the past 7 years because only if you choose to ignore them, you'll see my posts on the forum berating our manager. which is why i don't see why you keep repeating your feelings about that either - i know that very well. i've read it enough.
it's your ridiculous statements about the leagues/cups that i'm addressing.
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