Giroud Discourse

[Özim]

The mistake was selling Van Persie, not replacing him with Giroud. Once you sell a player of Van Persie's calibre, of which there are maybe only 3 players in the world on the same / better level (Messi, Ronaldo, Falcao) he becomes impossible to replace. As we're learning, of course.

Giroud was a good signing as his performances so far have shown and will only continue to get better. The fact that we have a thread slating him after less than 20 starts for us is proof that most football fans today are glory hunting filth.

Selling RVP was a mistake but I'd argue signing Giroud rather than someone proven also was.

There are players out there who'll score you goals and that's what we really needed, Giroud will miss many more than he scores, he's a sub at best IMO.

[Özim]

and there you have it. you just ruined your whole argument. well done.

You're the one that came out with a nonsense comment.

If you're going to get sarcy don't expect a serious reply.

[Kano]

you have only given him the diet thing, nothing else. so don't be scared of putting it out there. what else?

[Özim]

He's ruined it for me, too much BS, too much nonsense, too many big words whilst delivering nothing.

I'll credit him for some great football many years ago and signing some top players for sure and for some great times, but that was a long time ago now.

In pure terms he's not a great manager, IMO he's a man who's delivered some great times and football though, his skills with the right players brought success, but without those strong characters he's unable to deliver.

He's a very good manager in the right circumstances IMO.

[Kano]

so diet, great football and signing top players?

yet he deserves as little credit as possible for the success we enjoyed?

i'll leave it here, you've battered your own argument enough.

[Boss]

Selling RVP was a mistake but I'd argue signing Giroud rather than someone proven also was.

There are players out there who'll score you goals and that's what we really needed, Giroud will miss many more than he scores, he's a sub at best IMO.

In another universe Giroud would qualify as proven, spearheaded his unfancied team to the league title last season and has a mostly decent scoring record in his last few seasons (unlike a flop like Chamakh, who wasn't even a 1 in 2 striker before he came to us). I'm really not sure who's 'proven' that you expected us to be capable of getting when we sold RVP.

[Özim]

In another universe Giroud would qualify as proven, spearheaded his unfancied team to the league title last season and has a mostly decent scoring record in his last few seasons (unlike a flop like Chamakh, who wasn't even a 1 in 2 striker before he came to us). I'm really not sure who's 'proven' that you expected us to be capable of getting when we sold RVP.

I'd have taken Huntelaar, Higuain or someone like them who will deliver goals, not some unknown unproven French guy with very little experience of playing at the top level in any country.

[KSE Comedy Club]

Giroud will be fine next season and he will become a regular scorer.

Inshallah it will happen.

[Power n Glory]

so diet, great football and signing top players?

yet he deserves as little credit as possible for the success we enjoyed?

i'll leave it here, you've battered your own argument enough.

Not really because I've seen people use the same sort of arguments against Pep and sometimes with Mourinho.

If Pep fails miserably with Bayern, wouldn't it be fair to say he was blessed with a very taleneted squad and that's partly the reason why he was so successful?

We shouldn't dance around the issue of why Wenger has done so badly in the past 7 years. The mentality of the squad when he first arrived is worlds apart from what we're seeing now. Why is that?

[Özim]

so diet, great football and signing top players?

yet he deserves as little credit as possible for the success we enjoyed?

i'll leave it here, you've battered your own argument enough.

Not really because like I said "in the right circumstances".

He can't adapt, can't change and doesn't have the answers when the environment isn't right. That's not a great manager, great managers, evolve and adapt to changing conditions.

He's not done any of the above in the last x years, in fact it's been pretty dire.